Do they deserve to die? That’s not for me to judge but they deserve to have their excess wealth confiscated and distributed for the betterment of society
Puyi: From emperor to gardener
(Better than just putting him up against the wall, I guess, right?)
Yes.
There are no good billionaires.
Probably. They could have used their wealth for anything but they’re like dragons. Do you mourn for dragons in stories of knights slaying them?
Op probably does
All? No.
But they should certainly all be contained. And in general, it’s pretty safe to assume they’re all guilty of a LOT of felonies, so incarceration and asset forfeiture are certainly viable options to explore. And if they manipulate the justice system to continue harming the world and extracting resources from regular people, death may be the only way to save the rest of us.
I’m not a fan of the death penalty as punishment for crimes. I’m more in favor of execution as a means of ending a direct threat against humanity. Hitler objectively deserved to be assassinated, for example.
There certainly are no good billionaires, and likely no redeemable ones. But murdering them isn’t the first option.
“Anyway he had it coming.”
“We all have it coming, kid.”
–Unforgiven
Deserve has nothing to do with it. Only idiots approach this question on fantasizing about vengeance, morality, or “people who I consider not worthy of life getting their due”.
It’s not like these people’s persons are a threat to anybody, especially when all their MoP has been taken and it’s not like you gain that by killing them. They are just actors in a system and that system is the real enemy. Even if these people benefit from it greatly, they are still replaceable within the system. Calculated or not so calculated revolutionary terror is an other matter. Then interning and/or killing a few seething old men and their families who all represent the old order might become necessary to drive forward the revolution and/or cement the new order.
Kill all those who hold obscene wealth whilst depriving their sisters and brothers their human rights. Vanquish the landlords, the economic speculators & the remote-owners who make profit in leisure. You should not even miss them for you do not even know who they are.
The vast majority will never see those they labour for or those they support through legalised exploitation in the paying of rents. This anonymity and remoteness of the owning class allows them to be cruel and vicious in their actions. It’s also a one way mirror: for the working class must be surveilled in ever more obscene detail. Through technical innovation you will be deprived another fundamental human right! The right to privacy. Every moment of your life becomes their data.
For the working class there is no loss. Until we are all free there is work to be done. Those that shirk that responsibility can be thrown to the wayside.
Imagine we were monkeys in a forest and a few select monkeys were hoarding all of the food in their trees, letting most of it rot or go to little use aside from status and using it to bribe other monkeys to perpetuate the system. This same system that leaves other creatures to starve and suffer. This would be a deranged cancerous behavior, and even more terrifying when you consider it is almost guaranteed to pass down to the offspring. These pests would need to be driven off or eradicated as they would be a serious environmental threat. This is what must be done to billionaires, there just is no place for them in a logical system. They must be treated like rabid animals.
That’s fair.
I could also say you are a rabid animal that deserves cancer.
I could say your kid deserves to die from cancer or be shot.
Freedom of speech works both ways.
This post is in fact cancer.
Gathering up a billion dollars is a horrific strain to an economy. It is unnatural and impossible by any normal means … it is economic cancer. You could go back in time 2026 years and save the equivalent of $400,000 a year for those 2026 years and you STILL would not have a billion dollars. Its more than anyone ever needs and society should not tolerate gluttony and greed such as this. It is not natural.
You can say anything. You cannot create logic from nothing. He has a point - a purpose. He is saying cancer cannot be tolerated in a system because it kills the system. You’re saying random people can be killed in a system because… they can be killed? His has purpose of defending life, yours has no purpose.
…because they aren’t hoarding all the food?
You can, but you shouldn’t. If you came up to me and told me my nephew deserves to die of cancer, I’d tell you you’re an asshole and I want you to stay away from me and my family
Yes with the caveat if we have the power to enforce it they get the option to join the community lose all their wealth and work towards reparations to their victims. If we don’t have that power yet or they refuse then yes.
No, I just want them to pay their fair share of taxes and stop fucking with governments and laws.
What if they cant/wont? They’re all gambling addicts except they can pay to make sure they always win
The top 1% are responsible for more pain and suffering than any other demographic. Even the holocaust wouldn’t have happened if the top 1% lobbying for fascism. Crimes commited by workers are often done as a result of alienation, these crimes committed by billionairs are commited from souless greed, knowing the full effect of their actions but chosing to do nothing about it.
Honestly, I can’t make up my mind about killing them, I’m not sure if anyone should be killed. Perhaps with enough therapy they can become a regular person again.
Even the holocaust wouldn’t have happened if the top 1% lobbying for fascism.
They’re the same picture.
Yes. Next question.
Next question
Do I have the right to say and think you and your children deserve to have cancer and be murdered?
Implying billionaires are as innocent as a child?
You have the right to think whatever you want. You have the right to say almost anything you want. You lose that right when those actions start hurting others.
Your’s is just a dumbass response to be edgy. Go touch grass.
Rights aren’t real. They’re granted by the collective. Turn on the collective, and they’ll turn on you. No magic system keeps your rights in place then. You can certainly choose to identify others as an enemy, treating them poorly and thinking they should die. That isn’t even uncommon.
Now, do you have the infinite resources to make it happen? No. Do billionaires? Yes. That’s the problem.
Rights aren’t real. They’re granted by the collective.
They’re not granted by the collective in capitalist states, though. They’re granted by the ruling class, which is the minority capitalist class. And those happen to be the same people under discussion to face the guillotine.
Billionaires deserve to be abolished. If they won’t give up control of the world’s resources by choice, then yes they deserve to be killed, as an act of collective self-defense by the ecology against them. And so far, they have never voluntarily given up control.
They can’t actually resist appropriation personally. That would be like one person trying to stop all of 1000 people from crossing an imaginary line that’s 10 miles long.
The problem isn’t that they’ll personally resist but that they will spend their resources on a private military to protect their assets.
Good point.
How would you feel if someone on here or somewhere else think you deserve cancer?
Fascists, anticommunist liberals, LGBTphobes, statists, and conservatives have been wishing infinite violence and death on me, my friends, and my family for my entire adult life. I sleep like a baby knowing that my enemies are monsters and that I must be doing something right for them to want to kill me. The billionaires also sleep like babies because they are open monsters and have no conscience.
…are you a billionaire? Be honest.
What has this person done to deserve cancer?
Billionaires exploit and their actions directly negatively impact billions of humans and other creatures on this planet
They actually give people cancer by mass polluting
Someone would have to be pretty provoked to want that for someone else who isn’t a dick like me. What we’re seeing here for provocation is the systematically terrible things Mr Musk and other elities have done in the name of profit or power.
There’s a certain point where gluttony becomes so egregious that it’s probably due to something illegal or highly immoral.
We should have a trial, I guess.
No one deserves anything in the state of nature, everything just is what it is.
Desert regards The Social Contract. The contract says we mutually agree to behave respectfully towards eachother, to honor eachother’s right to exist and persist in the world. When a person fails to abide by the contract, they aren’t covered by it either. A person who hoards resources beyond what they can possibly use is not covered by the contract and deserves no protection under it.
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
