@may_be@thelemmy.club, !asklemmy@lemmy.ml isn’t the Larry/Scotty advice community. It’s a clone of r/AskReddit.

Do it cowards.

So you HAVE heard of us.

No platform for fascists.
Imperialists are the Fascist International.

The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discreetly Internationalized It

Since the colonial projects of Hitler and Mussolini had become so brazen and erratic, as they shifted from playing more or less by the liberal rules of the game to openly breaking them and then running amok, it was understood that the best way to construct the fascist international was to do so under liberal cover, meaning through clandestine operations that maintained a liberal façade.

The American imperium has thus played a central role in the construction of a fascist international by protecting right-wing militants and enlisting them in the Third World War against ‘communism,’ an elastic label extended to any political orientation that entered into conflict with the interests of the capitalist ruling class. This international expansion of fascist modes of governance has led to a proliferation of concentration camps, terrorist and torture campaigns, dirty wars, dictatorial regimes, vigilante groups and organized crime networks around the world.

Trump has dispensed with the liberal mask, making America nakedly imperialist again.

A Public US Person Gets Shot belongs in the FREE SPACE box, because it’s a given.

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Nearly always, they just want to get your stuff and GTFO, so let them have it/give it to them. Try not to seem threatening and try not to startle them, because they’re scared & jumpy and running on adrenaline, too.

Mossad, CIA, and MI6 are the GOATs of manufactured revolution.

It was dissolved illegally. It was a coup, and those involved got rich selling the commons off to Western capitalists at fire sale prices. They became oligarchs.

You seem to be confusing communism & socialism for capitalism, which kills orders of magnitude more people. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10455752.2021.1875603

And for all your fiery moralism, I don’t think you actually care about any of the people you’ve claimed to. I think they’re crocodile tears for preserving the status quo—the imperial core’s capitalism & imperialism—which you feel you benefit from.

That’s an odd question to ask for someone who’s been here for three years.

Previously:

But muh Media Bias/Fact Check says it checks out!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/contact/

Dave M. Van Zandt obtained a Communications Degree before pursuing a higher degree in the sciences. Dave currently works full time in the health care industry. Dave has spent more than 20 years as an arm chair researcher on media bias and its role in political influence.

Van Zandt is some hobbyist who was in the right place at the right time: the “post-truth” moment of Clinton’s loss to Trump and the string of Russiagate conspiracy theories and Kellyanne Conway’s alternative facts and the Cambridge Analytica hysteria.

The whole concept of the “left” or ”right“ “bias” being inversely correlated with factualness is garbage. These kinds of graphs, which try to convince us that centrism equals factualness, are garbage:

The core bias of corporate media is the bias of the capitalist class, but people like Van Zandt don’t seem to understand this.

The inner workings of corporate media were explained about forty years ago in Inventing Reality and Manufacturing Consent.
A five minute introduction: Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine

Previously:

I said “these kinds of graphs,” of which there are many https://duckduckgo.com/?q=media+bias+chart&iax=images&ia=images

But you’ve sparked an idea for an interesting project: use MBFC’s API to create one of these graphs from their own data. Doing a little googling, it seems that scripts and data dumps aren’t hard to come by.

I think armchair media analyst Dave M. Van Zandt is going on vibes. I don’t think he understands corporate & think tank media. Does he know who Walter Lippman or Edward Bernays were, or what the Council on Foreign Relations (“least biased” 🤡) is or made note of its prominent media members? Does he know about the Powell memorandum or the Trilateral Commission’s report, The Crisis of Democracy?

No results found for site:mediabiasfactcheck.com "manufacturing consent".

I’ve seen The Grayzone debunk the New York Times’ lies many times, and yet:

Also, in what universe is the neoliberal, anti-labor NYT center-left? And if the Grayzone in the ultraviolet territory, where does that leave the explicitly Communist Monthly Review, outside of MBFC’s Overton window? Surprise, it’s to the right of it:

Previously:

The first step is to understand the media, which Media Bias/Fact Check and the Ad Fontes Media* are never going to teach you. The only people who are taught it are those who get degrees in marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism; and even then only some of them.

The new post-Trump/“post-truth” media literacy curricula won’t teach it to you either, because it was paid for and crafted by the US military-industrial complex: New Media Literacy Standards Aim to Combat ‘Truth Decay’.

This week, the RAND Corporation released a new set of media literacy standards designed to support schools in this task.

The standards are part of RAND’s ongoing project on “truth decay”: a phenomenon that RAND researchers describe as “the diminishing role that facts, data, and analysis play in our political and civic discourse.”

None of it is a secret, though, and it can be learned.

• Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
• Propaganda model
• Edward Bernays
• Walter Lippmann
• Council on Foreign Relations
• Powell Memorandum
• The Trilateral Commission’s report, The Crisis of Democracy

You didn’t opt in to capitalism because your were never out of it. You just slightly tweaked your class relations within capitalism. You went from nearly-proletarian-level petit bourgeois to fully proletarian.

Reddit doesn’t matter nearly as much as you think. It’s not going to move the needle appreciably.

Almost all English language text is liberal, meaning capitalist, very little is socialist, virtually none is communist, and quite a lot is anti-communist. So there’s your baked-in political bias for English language models.

Hand waves hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths away

The besieged fascists could have released the civilians at any time but instead held them hostage.

Strange they fought so hard against fascists just to become one themselves?

Given that fascism is definitionally a bourgeois tool against the proletariat, that didn’t happen.

When you buy into a nation’s propaganda you might as well just check out of any rational conversation about them.

You seem to be bought into the imperial core’s propaganda. I get it: most of us used to be, too. I wouldn’t attribute it to irrationality, though.

when you deny the Uyghur genocide

We deny it because it simply isn’t true and not for any other reason. We also deny the genocide of white South Africans, as I’m sure you do as well. The “Uyghur genocide” story was fabricated by the US after its attempts to destabilize the Xinjiang region failed[1][2].

Eh… this meme implies that these invasions are equivalent, that Russia is doing an imperialism.

bye felisha

What I said is that Marx and his allies didn’t believe that it was possible to FORCE Communism into place

If that’s what you meant, then yes, that’s more-or-less correct. You can try to steer a ship, but you can’t make it do the impossible.

(not that anyone in Earth is actually doing capitalism either)

I’d rather not see what’s under this log, so I’ll leave it be.

And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans.

That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one?

Domestically as in within the US. Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world. It’s coming from inside the house.