I think Rimu has tied this warning to the peoplesdispatch.org domain. I think this is a custom thing he did to his instance, because I didn’t find it in the PieFed codebase.

I don’t think People’s Dispatch is even Marxist-Leninist. I think it’s an international anti-imperialist media site. But I wouldn’t assume Rimu could explain the difference or care that there is one. Maybe all anti-imperialists are tankies to him.

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but y tho, supernintendo chamlers?

My argument is that not liking China does not imply liking the US.

No claims it does, so who are you arguing with?

liberals not explaining the excruciatingly obvious to us challenge: impossible

Did you know that also:

• Only one thing can be bad.
• Only the other thing can be bad.
• Neither thing can be bad.

If you don’t have an argument, then don’t pretend to make one.

If you don’t believe there is a way through—even when you can’t yet see the light at the end of the tunnel—then there is no project.

If you don’t engage with the world as it really is, then you’ll sabotage your efforts to see the project through.

My guy, I didn’t bring up “whataboutism,” you did. It’s not a topic I “jumped directly to,” you did. What I did was point you to an intervention on liberals‘ abuse of the term as a thought-terminating cliché, which you obviously didn’t engage with at all. Instead you repeated the same tired BS that the Citations Needed episode dissects.

Same as. Go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all this to blow over.

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Again, nobody thinks Russia is socialist or communist, so again I don’t understand why the obvious keeps being pointed out to us. Everyone knows it’s a capitalist oligarchy, which every capitalist state is.

Which doesn’t mean anything when it comes to pointing out what China and Russia have done.

And there’s the rub. While China—and especially Russia—are not utopias, there are large discrepancies between what you think they’ve done and what they’ve actually done, between what you think they are and what they actually are. Relatedly there are discrepancies between what you think we are, meaning the imperial core states, and what we actually are. If you understood what we are, then you’d understand why China & Russia act in the ways that they do when dealing with us (to the extent that you do understand what they do, because don’t forget the first discrepancy).

But I’m not going to rehash that territory. Instead I’d suggest starting by developing real media literacy[1][2][3] and then investigating them yourself, if you have the time & motivation to.

But that doesn’t seem to happen, just attack attack and whataboutism.

Citations Needed podcast:
Whataboutism - The Media’s Favorite Rhetorical Shield Against Criticism of US Policy

Since the beginning of what’s generally called ‘RussiaGate’ three years ago, pundits, media outlets, even comedians have all become insta-experts on supposed Russian propaganda techniques. The most cunning of these tricks, we are told, is that of “whataboutism” – a devious Soviet tactic of deflecting criticism by pointing out the accusers’ hypocrisy and inconsistencies. The tu quoque - or, “you, also” - fallacy, but with a unique Slavic flavor of nihilism, used by Trump and leftists alike in an effort to change the subject and focus on the faults of the United States rather than the crimes of Official State Enemies.

But what if “whataboutism” isn’t describing a propaganda technique, but in fact is one itself: a zombie phrase that’s seeped into everyday liberal discourse that – while perhaps useful in the abstract - has manifestly turned any appeal to moral consistency into a cunning Russian psyop. From its origins in the Cold War as a means of deflecting and apologizing for Jim Crow to its braindead contemporary usage as a way of not engaging any criticism of the United States as the supposed arbiter of human rights, the term “whataboutism” has become a term that - 100 percent of the time - is simply used to defend and legitimizing American empire’s moral narratives.

There are ten thousand Linux distributions—some of which are shit—and only one FreeBSD.

No one thinks they do, and everyone knows that “two things can be wrong/true at the same time,” but for some reason liberals can’t stop “educating” us on the matter.

There’s no reason to be rude, and no one brought up furries but you.

No one believes US is lying about China and DPRK.

Then everyone is a sucker.

• We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.
• The Mighty Wurlitzer
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_influence_on_public_opinion
• Previously

I guess I should have expected deflection and “appeal to hypocrisy” when naming authoritarians.

Can you be any more a Redditor?

This conversation has already been had out a thousand times here. You brought nothing new to the conversation—in fact you brought nothing—so I can’t be bothered.

But, you indirectly proved my point - authoritarians are belligerent.

That wasn’t a point you made, and that’s not what belligerent means in the context I used it.

Sarcasm is not an argument, and we do have evidence for every genocide in modern history, because it’s impossible to hide one.

Trump’s regime is like every tin-pot authoritarian ever. Lies about everything, hides losses, and makes up “victories”.

These are in no way specific to Trump or “authoritarians.” Many—probably most—belligerents do those things.

Same shit Putin, the Kim Jongs, or even Castro did.

https://lemmygrad.ml/c/alwaysthesamemap

Seven dirty words > https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UYKYIYVuZ7s

1. shit
2. piss
3. fuck
4. removed
5. removed
6. motherfucker
7. tits

And that feature is disabled by default instead of enabled as with PieFed.