• AlvinTheChipmunk@sopuli.xyzOP
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    4 hours ago

    That’s fair.

    I could also say you are a rabid animal that deserves cancer.

    I could say your kid deserves to die from cancer or be shot.

    Freedom of speech works both ways.

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      26 minutes ago

      Freedom of speech does, but morality does not.

      Money is blood. That is what its function is. It works by flowing. If it accumulates in the brain and stays, you die. If it stays in the heart, you die. Money works by flowing. Billionaires take such a large percentage of the money, that it breaks the function that money serves.

      Billionaires literally care so much about hoarding their wealth that it breaks everything. They are like people who want to poke holes in a lifeboat, because they want everything. They are an existential threat to all civilization. Thiel left because America because he no longer has faith in its stability, in part, because he destabilized it due to his mental illness of wanting to have too much.

      Do you enjoy kneeling in front of those who happily want end your civilization due to their mental illness?

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        Do you enjoy kneeling in front of those who happily want end your civilization due to their mental illness?

        No, I don’t. But claiming someone deserves to die, celebrating their death, etc., is an extreme slippery slope that can be turned right back around on you. Like I said, you have the right to say whatever the hell you want and feel however you want. If someone thinks you deserve cancer, hopes you get cancer, or hopes your kid dies painfully in a school shooting, they are also entitled to feel that way, in the same way that you feel that way.

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          Difference is that they want EVERYONE to get cancer. They want EVERYONE to die. That’s what poking holes in a lifeboat does. And if you were in a lifeboat, and someone started poking holes in it, you would kill them if only in self defense.

          You want to defend those who want to sink the lifeboat. I’m not sure why, but that doesn’t make you moral.

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            You want to defend those who want to sink the lifeboat. I’m not sure why, but that doesn’t make you moral.

            Where the hell did I say I’m defending billionaires? I’m not. I’m defending everyone’s right to feel what they feel because you’re entitled to that, and I’m defending your right to free speech, which you have because of the First Amendment.

            If you want to say, “All billionaires deserve to die,” that’s your right to say that. You are entitled to feel that way. I’m entitled to say, "Your kids deserve cancer, or they deserve to be murdered in a school shooting.

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      This post is in fact cancer.

      Gathering up a billion dollars is a horrific strain to an economy. It is unnatural and impossible by any normal means … it is economic cancer. You could go back in time 2026 years and save the equivalent of $400,000 a year for those 2026 years and you STILL would not have a billion dollars. Its more than anyone ever needs and society should not tolerate gluttony and greed such as this. It is not natural.

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      You can say anything. You cannot create logic from nothing. He has a point - a purpose. He is saying cancer cannot be tolerated in a system because it kills the system. You’re saying random people can be killed in a system because… they can be killed? His has purpose of defending life, yours has no purpose.

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      You can, but you shouldn’t. If you came up to me and told me my nephew deserves to die of cancer, I’d tell you you’re an asshole and I want you to stay away from me and my family

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        26 minutes ago

        but you shouldn’t

        Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian, and Oprah are billionaires. One could argue, “You shouldn’t say they deserve to die.” However, you do have the right to say that; it’s the First Amendment. So yes, if you feel that Selena Gomez or Tyler Perry deserves to die because they are billionaires, then you can say it—you have that right. At the exact same time, I have the right to say that your two young nephews deserve painful cancer, or that they deserve to die in a school shooting.

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          Nobody is denying you have a legal right to say it, it just doesn’t make any sense to say it, especially completely unprovoked. I’m not saying any of those celebrities should die, it’s just you saying that. I don’t know why you’re so obsessed with your right to wish kids dead. It’s disturbing

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            ’m not saying any of those celebrities should die

            Dude, here is my point, and this is the only point I’m making: the people in these comments are saying Tyler Perry, Oprah, Selena Gomez, and Taylor Swift deserve to die since they are billionaires. If they die, these people will celebrate their deaths, which is 100% okay—that is their right to say and do that. At the same time, however, people are allowed to say, ‘Your kids deserve cancer. They deserve to die in a school shooting.’ See how that works? If you think someone deserves to die, then people are also allowed to think you deserve to die. That’s all I’m saying, dude.