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  • most of the point has been about the viewpoint we are choosing for the words

    I guess so. I would say revolutionary activity is any form of workers uniting against the capitalist class and building class consciousness to get us closer to a revolution, or the revolution itself.

    multiple actions that don’t cause a huge ruckus are the backbone of the change and in fact the important part

    Can you give examples of this? I have only seen significant change in favour of the working class when the working class has inhibited the ability for the capitalist class to go about it’s regular oppressive lifestyle.

    everybody except affluent white people is in a worse situation than they would be if “the most left wing of the large parties” had governed with consistency in any western country

    I have two issues with this. First of all they haven’t and they likely never will be considering the ruling capitalist class has complete control over the press. It’s not worth falling into the idealist trap of hoping an outcome will happen just because it will benefit everyone. Secondly Even when “left” parties do get elected they always succumb to the coercive forces of the capitalist class and never have any opportunity to impact any change.

    Also, elections are by far the best situation for the spreading of political ideas.

    This is an interesting point. Revolutionary parties do often run elections inside liberal democracies, although they don’t do this with the expectation they will gain power within the capitalist system and reform it they do this to further spread revolutionary ideas.











  • I’m going to start by saying I’m not entirely sure if a lot of these claims you have made are true or not since you don’t have any sources and I don’t really have time to do much research myself. But I believe a lot of these are relatively meaningless regardless of their factuality.

    Hoarding wealth is hardly an idea that has any real effect, that is assuming you are referring to wealth and not capital. People who earn their own money through working have the right to spend or not spend it as they see fit. Regardless they aren’t going to simply give you the money so them spending wealth doesn’t cause your conditions to improve anyway.

    I actually do not understand why refusing to retire is a bad thing for younger generations. Also why do you think older people choose not to retire? Older people not retiring might be a sign of a deeper issue such as them not having enough savings to properly retire.

    If you ask a random boomer “why did you outsource all the manufacturing to asia” they will most likely stare at you with a confused look. They did not decide to do it, the people who own factories decided to.

    I do agree that many of the older generation are quite anti-union and antilabour, these pushes particularly happened around the late 80’s and 90’s. But this is true only because the capitalist press made them believe the lie that unions are disrupting the economy and workers are asking for more pay than they can afford.

    The United States is a capitalist state is therefore dictated by the capitalist class. The media currently is and always has been controlled by the capitalist class that owns it. The government never regulated the press for the benifit of workers and workers of the boomer generation never had any control over the press. The things that kept houses affordable was the existence of socialist states in Europe and the USSR that had extremely affordable housing as well as more militant workers organising to improve conditions.

    Could you actually provide a source to pensions? I’m not a USian and I was under the impression that the US never had pensions, I didn’t know they used to.

    The “middle class” is not really a social class in the fact that it represents a material relationship with the means of production. By that I mean the only difference between the “lower class” and the “middle class” is the amount of wealth they own. It’s much better to talk about social classes in terms of weather they are earning money based of the work they do or earning money from other peoples work. That’s why Marxists prefer to talk about 2 main social classes: working class and capitalist class.

    I realise now that most of my writing boils down to a similar argument: The boomer generation did not inflict most of the decisions you listed, the capitalist class did. Since when the capitalist class dictates the decisions made by the capitalist state the boomer working class (around 99% of the entire boomer generation) does not make the decisions themselves.


  • Sorry for late reply lol

    Reaction of violence by the capitalist state is definitely a common side effect of larger strikes and is a certainty during revolution. But the effectiveness or revolutionary status of an action shouldn’t be measured by how violent a reaction it gets from the capitalist state. We should be striving for the greatest change with the least negative outcome, not aiming to risk dying or going to jail.

    Of course a single small scale strike isn’t going to cause a revolution. But it’s still revolutionary in the fact that it builds class consciousness and paves the way for further action. A single strike certainly does more than voting.