That’s basically google’s main business. Their business is not in web search, video platform, mobile OS, email or AI, it’s ad. People forget Google is an ad company, that uses any tool available to give you ad. If it’s free and not open source, you are the product. Either to sell your attention and availability to companies through ads, or to use your data to do profiling, build a more vicious ad platform and sell your data on the side.
I don’t pay anything. Just use newpipe/ublock/smarttube
Revanced and Tubular, for those who want more flavours.
Kinda makes sense tho. Either they earn money on you from ads or they make money from you because of subscription. Or you’re like me and you still block the ads even though YouTube does everything it can to stop you.
I wouldn’t really mind watching some ads before a video, but I don’t wanna get constantly interrupted or have the ads track me everywhere. I tend to watch the in-video ads from creators tho, because most people I follow have relevant ads, funny ads, or ar the very least deserve some revenue.
Why the fuck am I looking at a picture of Will Ferrell and not Ricky?
You guys pay youtube?
PiHole exists!
Pihole does not stop youtube ads as they are served through youtube’s domains. You need ublock or something like that.
Forreal I use pihole and I get ads. Is bro on something we don’t know about? Why say anything about pihole if you literally have never used it lol
DuckDuckGo player does pretty good.
Having everything connected to the router automatically get ad blocking is great.
I do wish the pihole was easier to use. I don’t think my parents would be up for manually updating it via SSH in a console.
You can access the web client from any connected machine and do it from there.
Also you can save the IP from the machine running it as a local DNS entry, something like pi.hole, so they can just type pi.hole/admin in the browser to access the dashboard
Where do you enter the ‘pihole -up’ command in the web client?
Stupid question, but does pihole offer any substantial benefit over using a remote ad-blocking DNS like AdGuard or whatever?
Please ignore the other two commenters…
Adblockers block ads at the user level, meaning you have to manage the adblocker for each device in your ecosystem.
PiHole and similar DNS based ad blocking technologies OTOH block ads at the network level and only needs one install location to manage content for all devices you have on your network.
This means with PiHole you can have one set of custom rules that block all ads at the network level by using a set of pre-loaded and customizeable DNS blocklists. OR! you can install Ublock on 2 devices in your house and let the other 7 devices that have no access to adblockers (like IoT devices) be subject to the atrocity that is modern advertising.
Additionally, adblockers in browsers can eventually be shut off. See: Google Chrome and Ublock Origin.
Yes but there are public DNS servers that block blacklisted domains. I can set that as DNS in my router settings and it works the same as using pihole as a blacklisting DNS server, right?
But what does a pihole (which is DNS blocking) do that AdGuard’s free public DNS (which is DNS blocking) doesn’t? Of course uBlock Origin alongside them is better, but what’s a pihole specifically doing?
I was pretty specific as to what advantages PiHole has over Ublock alone.
Please re-read the above comment and lmk if I can clarify anything.
He was asking about pi hole versus and AdGuard DNS.
And I was pretty specific about PiHole over AdGuard’s public DNS. And to be honest, the person you originally replied to was as well.
They’re basically the same thing
It’s a good way to dip your toes into learning about Linux, self-hosting, and administering reliable services.
Functionally they are the same though.
Please see my comment parallel to yours.
This thread is about dns level blocking not client side blocking.
Its both, actually. Ublock is client side and only available on Firefox, PiHole is network wide and available for anyone who can setup a simple DNS server.
Yes. And the person I replied to was asking if running your own dns is somehow different than using an opinionated dns service. The answer is no.
I want to set one up someday. I just need to get around to it
Story of my life…
I do. YouTube premium is cheap, i can add 5 other other people to my plan and they all the benefits, i get ad free music in my car (i cancelled XMradio because YouTube is better) and all my devices like my phone, car, smart tv, computer get ad free shows.
It’s a way better service than netflix because Netflix didn’t let be add people outside my house. And it’s way better than Amazon prime, because that chat extra flfor ad free but you still get ads!
I’ll support any company that gives me a cheap ad free plan that i can share with the family outside my house with no issues.
Yeah, not having ads in the phone app, the TV app, the music app on the phone or in the browser is really nice, I love it. Also got that for all my friends and family.
Never paid YouTube a dime though :)
how can I do it on the tv app? I have a Google tv and and a mibox and I absolutely hate watching youtube on those bc the fucking ads are over a minute long sometimes.
There’s an app for Google/Android tv called smart tube next. It’s pretty easy to install and works wonders. It’s made me use YouTube in my tv a lot more since I installed it.
Exactly. I will pay for things that I want. If you do not sell them to me I will get them some other way or satisfy myself with other things.
Some of us pay ourselves to install an ad blocker and then we keep our money and we don’t get any ads.
Wait, you guys are getting paid to not see ads??
I pay myself in handjobs.
I’m gonna pay you $0 to fuck off (with ublock)
We could just ban advertising.
Like Cuba!
I’m for it.
Any form of advertising aside from maybe a press release to announce a new product/service, and also any form of commissioned sales.
Never given YouTube a dime and never will
Never clicking on any online ad is another goal to strive for.
Why is it a random picture of Will Ferrell though? Why are recent memes like this?
Revanced on mobile uBlock on firefox
+1 for Revanced. I did the switch recently and I only regret not having done it earlier. YouTube just have too many ads nowadays, it’s not watchable without an ads blocking solution.
Is revanced much better than newpipe?
revanced strips the ads and you can remove shorts and make other customizations. cab also do the samenforother apps like spotify
I just do ublock on Firefox. do I need revanced?
I just use Firefox mobile with ublock to watch YouTube on mobile
this is the way
May I show you the way of Revanced (Manager)?
I downloaded revanced at one point, may even still have it installed. I’ve just found that a shortcut to YouTube.com on my home screen has worked great and I haven’t felt like changing. what makes revanced better?
You can remove shorts, sponsor block built it, window player, background player, can change how the player works (double tap to seek, vol/brightness controls) enable/disable recommended embedded video links (tiles), can make video pause on notifications, sanitizes sharing links. There are 56 patches avail.
Revanced can also be used to patch other software like spotify, reddit, twitch and facebook
if a wanna just use an app, revanced is awesome
ReVanced just allows you to ad block and sponsor skip via the YouTube app on mobile
Brave browser also works on mobile, including playing when another app is open or the screen is locked.
can donall that with revanced and also block shorts
What’s that have to do with Ricky Bobby?
“Perpetrators offer a service that will not be put into effect, or offer a service that solves a problem that would not exist without the racket.”
The very definition of racketeering.
Every single youtube channel needs to start seeding torrents of their videos, and posting those links to other platforms (here, mastodon, etc).
Youtube / google could be defeated collectively if creators were to consistently do this, and interested people had the ability to help seed videos.
But a lot of YouTube channels get money through youtube
Most of the channels I know ask for donations via patreon or other funding platforms. I don’t think youtube pays much except for maybe the top 1% of slop channels.
A lot more people make money than the top 1%. The top 1% make big money, but many more may not make a fortune, but it’s a legit side hustle for them. Get into the right niche, and you can do VERY well.
In most cases, not all that much. YouTube is mainly useful for getting views and building an audience. It’s a combination of revenue sources like sponsors, merchandise, donations, etc., that really make it worthwhile for creators.
I’m just so tired of the algorhythms. It’s like being in a cage mentally.
I go to my son’s house, and start browsing through his streamers, and he’s got all kinds of stuff I never see. They keep me boxed into the algorithm they’ve assigned to me, and wont let me see anything else, so I keep picking from their choices for me, which only locks me harder into their box.
WDYM by “browsing through”? As in, you get different search results? Or a different start page with suggested videos?
Maybe I’m weird, but I never use that. Either I have a specific need (an instruction video, a specific song or video episode). Then I use the search. Or I want to see what’s new. Then I check the channels of creators I like.
If you use the platform like that (which is basically like Lemmy), it’s a lot harder to algorithmically lock you in. (I only use third-party clients like FreeTube and Newpipe though, which block most types of tracking and don’t require a Google account).
I mean the platforms suggestions for what their algorithm thinks you’ll like. My son’s suggestions look a lot different from mine. I’d like to see some of those kinds of suggestions on mine (mostly classic films), but I get lots of junk, so I end up watching junk, so it recommends more junk.
I want to get off this treadmill, and in to a different one.
I’ve tried to escape several times with no luck. I’ve deleted my entire history, views, comments, unsubscribed from channels, you name it. Within a day it looks like I never left.
Which browser and adlocker are you using?
I’m not seeing this at on Firefox w ublock origin
I mean peer tube and similar exist. I think the majority of channels with over a 25k views, I don’t think there’s a consistant number anyone gets, but something like 100 bucks per 25k views or so is pretty common.
Peer tube uses webtorrents, which for many reasons haven’t caught on. It’s still mainly centralized nodes with massive hosting costs. Torrents are the fully decentralized answer.
