• gergo@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    well they always taught us in history class how greece was the hi mark of ancient culture.

  • Kyden Fumofly@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    If this is a teenage girl, how the hell the grown up men looked like? I mean my masculinity is already hurt by this image alone.

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        Ötzi the Iceman

        This guy right here, his name is Ötzi. He died around his 50s. 5000 years ago. In the high Alpes. No, not due to old age. He was actually murdered. He was not considered ancient, just old. It’s speculated he was already crippled due to past wounds - both fresh and old, and yet he was fine and rocking at the altitude of over 3000 meters… until someone penetrated him with an arrow.

        No that isn’t a counterargument to your theory, as a single special example is never enough to discard any statement. I don’t need to, because it’s already well documented how wrong this perception of aging is. I just want to show you just how durable people were even in the truly ancient times.

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        Wrong, in those years people also reached the age of today’s people. The myth that they had a lower lifespan was due to the high mortality of newborns and a violent society that lowered the average general age.

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    7 hours ago

    Hair is such a big part of how people see attractiveness. Can somebody put this through a better hairstyle in a face app filter and post results?

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    Here we go again with the random shitting on the Greeks.

    Bet the girls in England looked way better than this 9000 years ago, nothing like cro magnon apes no no they didn’t eat fleas out of each other’s backs where’d you hear that

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      random shitting? so it’s not related to the scientific research that was done in Greece and not in England?

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        I’ve noticed a trend lately - not sure how far back this goes - but it appears to me that aspects of the Greek civilization are very often attributed to the Romans and mentions of the Greeks are often reduced to derogatory memes (like how easy it is to be Socrates because there was only a bunch of people alive at the time and other such bs) and of course let’s not forget how gay everyone was (as if that’s a bad thing but whatever). Couple that with misconceptions about Alexander the great and how he was supposedly a Slav and Macedonias weren’t Greek blah blah, the fact that the Turks are trying to claim that everything that now lies in modern day Turkey is “theirs” etc etc, the claims from Christians around the world that Christian ideas are the basis of the western civilization and morality in general as if they didn’t just appropriate everything from past religions and belief systems… Anyway rant over.

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          It sounds like you need to make some lemonade pour in the ouzo and not worry about mallakas

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            Hah I’m not worried mate it’s all good, I just find it interesting how certain interest groups can change narratives from one day to the next. Btw this misrepresentation extends to all the non-English speaking peoples, who are basically excluded from the internet.

  • ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip
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    I can suddenly see why you would fight a war over Cleopatra or Helen of Troy if this is the average local option.

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    this feels like one of those shrink wrapped dinosaur situations. like they arent doing a good job estimating how her soft tissue would have been distributed at all. why are her eyebrows so low, why are her cheeks so lean, why is there so much tissue below her lips, why is her hairline so high and with a bit of a widows peak? it feels like they put a mans tissue distribution on a womans frame completely uncritically and called it good.

    edit: i think the harsh drop lighting theyre displaying this under is making it way worse too. it might not look quite as bad with softer more diffuse lighting.

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      Yeah this looks completely wrong to me… Like sure, they would look very different, but they wouldn’t be indistinguishable from men. Even from an evolutionary perspective that’s just silly.

      Even today we have women that have “facial bone structures we associate with masculinity” as they describe. It’s not like we are working blind and trying to reconstruct a dinosaur or an extraterrestrial. Though maybe for some scientists, women are similarly rare.

      I looked up some examples of “masculine women faces” online in 2 minutes. Even though they look “masculine”, they clearly don’t look like Gigachad or whatever this reconstruction is.

      example photos

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    I think someone mixed up the storage, and they accidentally recreated John Travolta from the Battlefield Earth movie?

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      This is from the movie about the making of Battlefield Earth with John Travolta played by Val Kilmer

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      It’s been a while since I’ve studied it, but IIRC skeletons of early humans show in general more traits we view as masculine, like stronger chins and a more jutting brow line, even in female skeletons. It was even more pronounced in male skeletons, but this is still pretty mild sexual dimorphism even among great apes (think male vs female gorillas, for example).

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        Though, even being 9000, they would still be considered a “modern” human, correct? Having evolved roughly 300k years ago, I would think their traits would be far more similar to our own then “early” versions of our species

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          Yeah but we started fucking Neanderthals way later and there were plenty of inbred diasporas with little outside contact.

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            Also it seems to have taken a bit for human ethnicities and morphology to stabilize. We absorbed a lot of other humans in Africa to the point that it unironically messed up a lot of early data cause early scientists didn’t think fucked to extinction was a valid form of human expansion.

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          Early might not be the right word, I think I’m mixing it up with pre-agricultural hunter gatherers (I think I’m forgetting a term here, but it’s hot and I’m tired).

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        SIX fingers…

        If anyone missed the RiffTrax version of that movie it is one of the better ones. You can still find it on the privateer gulf.

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      12 hours ago

      No no, that’s Simply Red after a full-blown bender. He just hasn’t got to his hairbrush yet.