Microsoft warns Authenticator will block rooted Android and jailbroken iOS, verify if your phone is affected.
It may be painful but a switch to Ente Auth or similar is a must
microsoft truly hates productivity in the workplace
I can guarantee this will be a hilarious shitstorm of false positives wasting IT departments’ time, because their detection of it is massively flawed.
At least once a month my - completely stock, and un-rooted - phone tells me I can’t use Outlook/Teams because of root. Every time, a reboot is required to resolve this. One one occasion, TWO reboots.
Ignoring whatever reason Microsoft think they’re blocking this for, it’s going to regularly block regular users, who are not going to stand for it.
They somehow trying to eliminate everything they cannot control, funny
Guess I need to get off of it faster now.
Ths is gonna cause some fun at work. I know our IT team would not be on top of this until one day a portion of employees can’t SSO in. Then mayhem will ensue by heels being dug on both sides.
How does the tool actually check for this?
Does it just use the Play Integrety API, or does it use some kind of other attestation check?
The need for full root privilege has fallen by the wayside assuming you can trust the OS running on the device. I dont hate this change if I can run a custom ROM that will report that the user does not have root privilege and that the OS has not been modified since boot.
Probably Play Integrity, since it’s still working on my phone with the Play Integrity Fix Magisk module installed.
Any app can tell if it has root privileges.
Why would you use microsoft Authenticator anyway? There are other options
Work
I don’t really mind using shit software on work devices. Yes it’s slow and inefficient, I spent half an hour today on Windows doing what would be a very short command on Linux. Fuck it, get paid the same. I just use Linux at home in my own time.
I’ll point out better software exists. If I don’t get support in changing it or allowed to change it, fuck it. It’s on them at that point.
You don’t need it for work. You can use any authenticator.
It depends…. Your company IT department can choose what types of 2FA are available to use and Microsoft Authenticator is separate from OTP and other methods, and it is possible to restrict them.
That’s also yet another reason why I force the issue of a company phone as part of my equipment to do my job.
my company IT can provide a phone
no work software is ever touching a personal phone
and work phones get shut off at closing
Nope, the Microsoft authenticator is slightly different, and other authenticators won’t work. I just went through this with my IT dep. Microsoft authenticator will sometimes pop the numbers up on the computer and make you enter it in the app, not the other way around.
You can use other authenticators. I use ente auth for my microsoft account
Depends on how your M365 tenant is configured. Both conditional access policies and authentication strengths can enforce the requirement
I can’t. The authenticator for my job was set up on my work device by my IT department.
If your work requires you to have a Microsoft Authenticator-compatible device, they should provide you with one.
set up on my work device by my IT department.
Sucks to have that. Have you tried asking IT if you could use a different one?
The main problem as I see it is if I have to download authenticator onto my personal device because something has happened to my work device. That’s the only way I could see this being a problem since I use Graphene OS on my personal phone. Even then I would probably just use the authenticator on my work computer rather than going to that trouble.
Then stop working for retards who support Nazis
This change is really more about enterprise use cases. If you take DLP seriously you need to make sure the integrity of the controls on work provided devices are intact. Authenticator isn’t managed by intune since users could use it for many things.
Nothing stops someone taking a photo of another screen. It’s not a panacea. It’s just one more hurdle.
Yup, I use Aegis, and found a strange little trick with Bitwarden Authenticator where I can import them into the main app (the Vaultwarden server). I know keeping all my power in one place defeats the purpose of 2FA but you know, I trust Vaultwarden, and myself to keep it secure, implicitly.
Fuck all these totalitarian corpos.
sure, but you shouldn’t be rooting Android any more than you should be running Linux on a root user.
Rooting is a scary word they use to describe everything that hasn’t been approved by google, specifically its “play integrity” feature. And “play integrity” feature is a totalitarian shit.
That’s not what ‘rooting’ means.
There are a couple Android ports of KeePass. They are open source and won’t care if your phone is rooted.
Does it even support OTP?
Just use https://github.com/beemdevelopment/Aegis on Android.
Yes, both KeePassDX and KeePass2Android support TOTP.
Any password manager that does not support OTP is worthless.
I disagree.
In fact, there is a strong argument to be made that storing your TOTP secrets in the same place as your passwords is bad practice.
You now have a single point of failure that if exploited, could grant an attacker total access to all your accounts.
KeePassDX Android does. Been using it for a while now.
Why the fuck would you use a personal phone for work?
Get some cheap alternative and put the authenticator on that phone and say that is your main phone.
I wont use my personal phone for anything work related except authentication. Since it sits in its own little jail, it’s fine.
I work all over the world and remote in. I have no other work related devices or equipment.
I look at it as a key card from the old days when I had to go into a building. I think that is a pretty trivial use case and doesn’t need them to provide a phone, and in fact I absolutely would not want a device owned by anyone else that I carried around. That is FAR worse.
That said, this change sucks as I will now need to get around this bullshit.
2FA is not just for work.
Sure but you can use your own choice of 2FA software for your own stuff
you don’t just use authenticator for work. anybody who plays Minecraft uses it.
uh no? you can set up any number of mfa methods for a Microsoft account…
only if the company sets it up that way.
Great, what does that have to do with the authenticator supposedly only being for work?
because you said anyone who plays Minecraft had to use it too. you do not. but some people are required to for work. therefore they only have to use it for work. do you get it now or do i need to eli5 it for you more?
I didn’t say anybody who played Minecraft had to use it. You’re just bad at reading. Do I need to walk you through the sentence like you’re five, or are you done beating your chest like a teenager?
Better yet, if your work requires you to have Microsoft Authenticator, tell them that they need to provide you with a device capable of using it.
Instead of spending your own money on a burner phone just for that, make your work pay for it.
Because, obviously, you can’t be a real person if you don’t let the corpos control your device.
Glad I don’t use their app then.
You can jailbreak IOS?
Damn…
So the dream is dead?
Everyone that cares about security or privacy is working on custom android ROMs since there is no actual benefit to Apple hardware or software at this point in history. Plus you save money buying a Pixel device.
Not everyone. Depending where you live there’s no devices available that are compatible with secure custom ROMs (you might be able to deGoogle, but that’s different from being secure).
Google is doing their best to strangle those too, by only releasing their source code when a new major Android release comes out. Custom ROM developers then have to rebase and integrate several months of commits all at once, with nowhere near enough time or resources to actually vet more than a tiny fraction of the changes.
