• switcheroo@lemmy.world
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    I’m fine with that. Better that being a tall ape descendant slash servant.

    Cats are great. 😊

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    I can pick up my cat and hold them, my cat can’t pick me up.

    Who’s boss now? grabs the cat and cuddle them with a warm embrace

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    I don’t buy this because cats will react totally differently to cats than people. Regardless of posture. If my cat sees someone walking down the street she doesn’t get angry. If my cat sees a cat outside she’s already on the defense.

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      I think people are leaving out purring and kneading as behavior. Both are kitten behaviors. Suggesting to humans they click into “kitten mode”

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    I’ve heard this a few times and doubt it. At least with my cat. He howls at other cats and tries to attack them. He loves humans.

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    I’ve been wondering if that actually holds any water - or is it just some outdated, poor-quality study (or Sunday newspaper article) that was quoted so many times that everybody believes it now?

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      If it were the case, how would one prove it or even show evidence for it? And similar question for if it isn’t the case, how would you disprove or show evidence against it? I’m not even sure how one would prove that cats have a concept of species.

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    A dog is an herd animal and need an lider to follow, a cat (except lions) are lone hunters, they don’t even have the concept of an lider, the can have anarchistic groups and friendships when they have with it advantages to obtain food.

    The dog thinks, he takes care of me and feeds me, he must be a god

    The cat thinks, he takes care of me and feeds me, I must be a god

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      Dogs don’t need a leader - the whole alpha male wolf thing has long been disproven, by the original author none the less. Dogs are highly social and live in groups, yes, but there’s no boss dog. Very few animals have a concept of a leader. In fact I’d argue that none do and it’s a totally human idea.

      I like your cat/dog thinking idea though. Cats very much think ‘me me me’!

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        This isn’t quite true, wolf packs do have leaders: the pack’s mom and dad.

        Most wolf packs are a breeding pair and their children, and the children will break off and form new packs over time. Every time you hear pack you should legitimately just translate it to “family”

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          I’d argue that parents are different to a ‘leader’ as we perceive them, or as I read was suggested in the comment. Children will stick with their parents, up to the point at which they’re ready to start their own family, like you say, but is that leadership in the same sense?

          But yes, I agree, pack = family is accurate.

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          Is that leadership or just breeding and/or social dominance though? Do they tell others where and when to hunt e.g.? I’m not so knowledgeable about seals of any species so a genuine question.

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    he believes cats are semi-feral and that they think we are cats too

    Ok, so it’s just something someone believes, it’s not very scientific… They don’t really provide much evidence other than belief

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      Cats don’t see you as cat, but also not as someone superior, they can see you as friend, but you have to gain it, if not, you are only an tin opener and food supply. They are anarchists by nature.

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        They are more like little dictators.

        What the article implies is that they do not understand that we are different species. The relationship between cats and humans is a whole other area. But I don’t believe cats are stupid or have somehow evolved to believe humans are the same species as them.

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          Certainly they are far from beeing stupid, but they simply don’t have an concept of leaders or hirarchy. You can even train them to do tricks, but it is more difficult as with dogs, not because they are more stupid, but because they must see a reason and have the desire to do it. It’s in their nature, in nature it’s up to their own strategy and decisions whether they’re going to eat or not, there’s no herd or a leader that tells them what to do. This is the difference with dogs, nothing to do with intellectual capacity, perfectly equivalent, females are usually somewhat smarter than males, but just as in dogs, there are individual differences, as it also happens with us humans.

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      When I had a dog, I used to think my dog thinks he will grow just as big as me and will join my daily routine, which was a bit depressing when you think about it

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      Probably this is yet another case of a journalist spinning yarn out of some poor researcher’s paper summary, and then being quoted out of context.

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    No, they have absolutely no idea about nuclear war and apparently no clear sense that we might be some other species, despite not quite having the strokably hairy torsos they enjoy.

    Speak for yourself, my torso hair is luxurious.

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      This will totally dox myself to anyone who might be in or know someone in an old friend group.

      I’m a very furry person - I joke that I put the hair suit in hirsute - but at least it’s soft! Years upon years ago, I had a one night stand with my then future partner’s (now ex’s) best friend. It was bad. Really, awkwardly bad. The kind of bad where I woke up the next morning and, instead of trying for another go, groaned inwardly because they were still there, a living reminder of how bad it was.

      I took out my phone and hastily messaged my best friend, asking her advice on politely dealing with this. Unbeknownst to me, my guest was awake, messaging my future partner. She described being barely awake in the early morning, petting my cat. I didn’t have a cat or any pets. As she became more aware, she realized she was petting my chest.

      Apparently some humans think I’m a big stupid cat too.

      P.s. She also thought the sex was awful.

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      My cat knows about nuclear war. He simply hasn’t chosen to exercise the knowledge.

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        True, it’s common knowledge that all cats know the exact time and date when the first bombs are going to fall, leading to the fall and eventual extinction of the human race
        But they all refuse to tell us because they’re silly furry goobers

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        I would insist on a regular inspection protocol. Cat could have an underground relocation system for averting defensive preemptive strikes.