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  • I’m saying that it’s possible to make it economically unfavorable. If, for instance, you had massive boycotts or strikes or something.

    No amount of boycotts or striking are going to make the others stop wanting to murder brown people for its own sake.

    That makes the choice clear.


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    Exactly. They fund genocide because it’s politically expedient. The opposition funds genocide because they love killing brown people

    It’s conceivable to convince one side that genocide is no longer politically favorable. You’re never going to convince the other side to stop wanting to kill brown people. There is no third option with prospects to win.


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    I’d say that’s a ridiculous choice and it’s time to organize with the masses against the system that presented it to us

    Agreed

    rather than undermine that effort by treating the system as legitimate and shaming others for not seeing the candidates and their futures the way I did.

    Nah that’s dumb. I don’t give a shit about “treating the system as legitimate”. The system is what it is, and it will continue to be the system until it isn’t anymore. That’s gonna take more than a handful of people refusing to acknowledge the system’s “legitimacy”.

    Hand me two cups of shit, I still have free will to throw them back in your face. The system can force feed if it wants but you won’t see me voluntarily picking a shit cup and eating shit.

    It is doing that though. You get the option to vote for which of the two cups they force feed you, and everyone else. We are not presently in a position to throw anything back right now. When we are, I’m all for it. But part of that is choosing the smaller cup of shit while we gather strength.



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    Says who? Yeah, the Dems are filthy neolibs, but all they really care about is money and influence. They’re rainbow capitalists.

    The other is literally based on hate and fear, they might actually care about building a christo-nationalist ethnostate more than money.

    They certainly have some goals in common, but even compromise isn’t going to the same place.




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    21 hours ago
    1. No, governments of all varieties commit genocides. Words mean things, fascism is a specific political ideology, not every genocidal regime is also fascist.

    2. What genocide did Democrats commit? Aid and abet, sure, and that’s obviously a problem. But they’re not doing the genocide themselves.

    Again, not saying the bipartisan unconditional support of Israel is acceptable.





  • Great reading comprehension, that’s not all I wrote.

    It’s shite for numerous reasons, but it’s better than what came before. We can acknowledge the benefits while simultaneously acknowledging that we can do better.

    What superior system has been implemented at scale?

    And quit changing the subject, answer my question. Unless you can’t, because you know I’m right. Disingenuous.


  • Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you were the adjudicator of who is leftist.

    Answer me, who benefits from your propaganda? It’s not the left, it’s not Palestinians, it’s not minorities. It’s the far-right, who love that you’re abdicating the tools to defeat them. And you get to act superior, which must be nice to bolster your cosplay.

    Unless you can identify a specific, material way this benefits anyone on the left, it’s best to just assume you’re either mindlessly repeating propaganda, or you’re actively trying to obstruct the left.


  • That’s what I’m saying man. Do something practical and stop cosplaying. This disingenuous virtue signaling is sad and counterproductive.

    Who benefits from you refusing to vote for Democrats? The left? Nope. Palestine? Nope. Minorities? Nope. Literally the only one that benefits are the Republicans. You’re the one wasting your vote for the benefit of the right. You’re either a right wing troll, or you’ve been brainwashed by one. Use your brain comrade.


  • Expiring how long did it take Europe to shed absolute monarchism? Centuries. And power emerged in new forms, like I said.

    New, stable forms of organizing civilization take generations to establish. I’m all for representation, but let’s not pretend that past implementations of the “people’s democracy” were free from corruption. The USSR was a nice idea, but it took less than half a century for it to succumb to bureaucratic corruption. Arguably, it was even deeper autocratic corruption than in Western democracies.

    I just don’t see a meaningful difference. It would be difficult, but not impossible, to change the landscape of our existing system with massive leftist voter turnout. We could achieve, incrementally, the same results as through toppling and rebuilding society. And as difficult as that would be, it would be less difficult than toppling and rebuilding society, with the added benefit of avoiding extremely corruptible power vacuums.


  • And what, you just believe some low effort analogy as gospel? Weak.

    I said, that voting helps you choose your enemy. An enemy that obstructs the left is obviously better than an enemy that obstructs the left and pushes right. This is a very simple concept, why don’t you get it? Why are you making more work for us?

    I was wrong, we aren’t on the same side. I’m on the side of leftist progress, you’re on the side of sanctimonious virtue signaling. That’s peak cosplay.

    Grown ups make decisions that further their goals, even when it takes time and effort. They don’t spend all their time complaining about things being hopeless. Grow up.


  • Uh, are you feeling okay? What you just posted is devastating to your point. I’m saying to try to keep the ratchet on the stationary stage line enough to actually push left, you’re saying “Lol just let it spin right”. This is so incredibly stupid, what idiot thought that the ratchet effect supports such a stupid argument? I feel like I’m in a room full of toddlers shouting nonsense catchphrases.


  • Right, you say that, and that’s a lovely aspiration, but how is it implemented? I don’t have a magic wand here that eliminates class, but even if I did, how do you prevent demagogues from influencing the majority? Erasing established power at one point in time does not prevent it from rising again in a new form. You’re just trading capital interest for charismatic manipulation.


  • Yes, because everything is easier for the left when Republicans are in power 🙄. I swear, it’s going to be easier to radicalize liberals than to convince you lot to stop shooting yourselves in the foot. Have fun circle jerking over your ideological purity, I guess. We’ll be over here actually trying to make things better, if you feel like helping.