• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Guns are pretty effective too.

    If you don’t have one, it is past time to arm yourself. This ship is sinking and you’re going to need it.

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      5 hours ago

      We don’t have guns here in the UK. That’s why we’re throwing milkshakes at the fascist politicians.

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      9 hours ago

      I don’t know. There are a lot of protests happening. It’s just that its harder to fight fascism when it’s malignant and metastasising.

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      10 hours ago

      Barbwire is not as easy to find. But taking a bat, making a crown of construction nails and tying it together with a lot of glue tape (otherwise, ahem, the nails will make the bat shatter) - the classic way is always the best.

      You can also bite off nails’ heads with metal scissors, and use a good enough pipe, and make a very basic and close-range firearm. But that takes some experience and awareness of the dangers (like killing yourself occasionally when the thing blows up).

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          15 hours ago

          I don’t take orders.
          I do know they never accomplish anything and fight for fascist regimes

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            14 hours ago

            I don’t take orders

            woah woah you sound like a pinko anarchist

            also I know that must have sounded cool in your head but it’s super lame dude

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              11 hours ago

              You sound like an edgy teen with that has this T-shirt and now it’s your whole identity.
              So can you fuck off and never talk to me or do I have to block your annoying ass?

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                11 hours ago

                not an anarchist but nice try. I just wanted you to prove you don’t know what anarchism even is and you did. i don’t give a shit what you have to do; block away. or stop saying stupid shit if you don’t want people commenting.

                • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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                  11 hours ago

                  I just wanted you to prove you don’t know what anarchism even is and you did

                  Right bcs I didn’t humor your silly ass, LOL

                  And you’re not commenting, you’re annoying and have nothing to say worth reading, so bye asshole, blocked

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        Think it’s about time you americans stop the macho talk and fantasies, everyone knows you can’t back it up.
        If there’s any positive in the fact that shitty country is drowning in guns then it would be the possibility to fight fascism.
        But as always they talk the talk but never walk the walk. Weakest docile and pacified pussies on the planet.
        Put on your cool tactical gear and invent some nice interpretative dance around your AR.
        Or take it with you next time to vote harder.

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          20 hours ago

          Trump was elected. Why are you acting like he took over the country in a coup?

          I fucking hate Trump but all these ignorant fucking non-Americans don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

          • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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            15 hours ago

            Trump was elected. Why are you acting like he took over the country in a coup?

            Quite the projection.
            My reaction isto the Blu MAGA commenter and his violence fantasies.
            Those are youre people, weaklings crying online.
            And even more projection is calling non-americans ignorants.
            Unlike you we’re not politically illiterate and we would never be in the pathetic state your banana republic is in.
            So go cry to them

        • kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          21 hours ago

          The vast majority of guns are owned by fascists, there simply aren’t a meaningful number of armed leftists (or liberals).

          If you’re advocating for random leftists to start attacking random federal agents that’s a terrible idea and will do nothing but provide an excuse for the regime to ramp up oppression.

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            15 hours ago

            If you’re advocating for random leftists to start attacking random federal agents

            That’s your imagination.
            I’m talking about organised revolution, but that’s something you’re not capable of.

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          It takes time to organize resistance amongst a pacified and stupefied populace. Unless you are suggesting lone wolves start shooting randomly, only to be immediately captured or killed by the state, effectively ending their resistance?

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            1 day ago

            It takes time to organize resistance amongst a pacified and stupefied populace

            The second part of that sentence, is the reason for my statement, that it will not happen.
            It didn’t and time is not going to fix that.
            Where is that organising or even credible groups that would do that?
            They are basically going to cry online until 2028 and that’s it.

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              21 hours ago

              Trying to unseat a democratically elected president is not going to have enough support. Now if he tried to serve a 3rd term you might see the idea of violence gain traction. If a Democrat president tried to serve a 3rd term there would definitely be some violence coming from the right as well.

              But for now, most of the pacified masses are comfortably under the illusion that the government is still for the people. The price of everything is starting to cause doubt, but the wakening is very slow. In the US the real struggle is a class struggle, Dem vs Rep is mostly a distraction.

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              There are several leftist groups that have really ramped up their organizing. The PSL is explicitly building a Marxist vanguard party, the DSA has seen dramatic membership increases, and more.

              A successful revolution doesn’t need a majority of the population to support it if the organization and strategy is there.

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                  11 hours ago

                  That’s why they’re focusing on organization right now, to build up the power to lead a revolution. Obviously there is no successful revolution right now, it needs to be built.

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                dramatic membership increases

                That is a few 1000’s.

                There simply isn’t enough left-wing.
                And if they did try something the Blue MAGATS would rather fight them than the fascists.
                I’m sure there are a lot more clueless people feeling ‘radicalised’ and think they’re going hardcore by following Bernie the Sheepdog or AOC.

                I feel sorry for the few percent worth saving but pragmatically I’m glad it came to this.
                It’s accelerating the inevitable decline of US power and the Blue MAGA get a taste of what they do to the rest of the world constantly.

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                  1 day ago

                  Well if you want to resign yourself to pessimism that’s your prerogative, but don’t kid yourself that you’re any different from the whining American leftists you’re complaining about.

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            20 hours ago

            It comes from the word pusillanimous, not vagina.

            Thanks for the anti-American bigotry by the way, you’re so enlightened.

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              19 hours ago

              99.999% of the people who use it insultingly mean vagina, so what the other 1 person thinks it means or where it came from is irrelevant.

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    2 days ago

    Unfortunately it’s not a cure. It’s a treatment.

    It’s a chronic condition requiring continuous treatment. If you let up, it comes right back.

    Keep up your meds people.

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      It’s a strain of the authoritarian virus that has existed since 1914. It’s not eternal and it can be removed without it coming back if you fight it strongly enough.

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        Unfortunately, it’s more like cancer. It will spontaneously appear. Without continuous vigilance it will eventually get you.

        The world needs to deal with the current acute outbreak, then work out preventative measures, for the long term.

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      Oh, yeah, trust me, you don’t want to cure these bright individuals. But a good treatment probably feels soon good.

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    This is not the cure for fascism this is the last resort way of dealing with it.

    Fascism is a byproduct of the capitalist system. When the inequality gets too great in society those at the bottom are looking for change and Fascism offers that for them.

    It also captures and uses and abuses a lot of young people who are impressionable and want to do the right thing and make things better and they fall for the lies of fascists.

    You combat fascism by bringing in good tax laws and social programs that makes sure the wealthy don’t get preposterously rich while the poor get so poor that working a full time job is no longer enough to meet their basic needs and more.

    You cure fascism by getting rid of the hierarchical social structure that is capitalism that the fascist hierarchical system maps on to very well and create a more equal society that’s where it’s much harder if not impossible for fascists to take power.

    For me this is the quintessential video essay on fascism (white fascism) https://youtu.be/5Luu1Beb8ng

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      It’s been my whole life so far and things take three steps back for every half step forward. I’m ready for guillotines. I don’t want to waste my whole life voting for the lesser evil and praying for gradual reform but getting the greater evil anyway. My seemingly incurable social ineptitude and speaking skills haven’t helped any attempts to take direct action while taking the moral high ground. There are more people wanting to undermine the optimal system for meaningless hate and personal gain every day and if I’m going to die and hope the next generation has it better I want to take everyone undeserving that would greedily ruin things for everyone else with me.

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      I guess arguably, there are not many truly fascist cunts and those ones deserve the bat, but the current societal structure and systems in place allows for a predictable rise of fascism, by people who believe the lies fed to them, who want a better life for themselves and for their children and thus become a enablers/silent bystanders as fascism rises.

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      I would say that while in the US this is very accurate, it is important to understand that it is not inherently a capitalism problem, but rather an abuse of human nature and hard times by those who have something to gain (ideals, money, power, joy, etc)

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        Why would this only be accurate in the US? The nazis gained power after the economic collapse of 29 combined with the ww1 reparations destroying the German economy.

        Now we are post 2 financial crises in 2008 and covid and AfD is on the rise in germany, Macron almost lost to he fascist party.

        The Brothers of Italy had massive increase in recent elections.

        Modi, Bolsonaro, who ever the fuck clown is they elected in Argentina.

        Far-right populism is on the rise world wide as the economic struggles continue.

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    You have to be careful, if you smack hard but not hard enough it can actually make new fascists!

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      The trick is to continue applying dosage until the fascism stops breathing. It’s like antibiotics, make sure to use the full prescription to ensure complete eradication, even if you think it’s taken care of, otherwise it comes back stronger.