Trump used the stage to deliver a profanity-filled version of his usual rally speech that again painted an apocalyptic picture of the country if Biden wins a second term.

"If I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country…

Biden campaign spokesperson James Singer accused Trump of doubling “down on his threats of political violence.”

“He wants another January 6, but the American people are going to give him another electoral defeat this November because they continue to reject his extremism, his affection for violence, and his thirst for revenge,” Singer charged in a statement.

A one-time Trump critic, Moreno, a wealthy Cleveland businessman, supported Marco Rubio for president in the 2016 Republican primary, and once tweeted that listening to Trump was “like watching a car accident that makes you sick, but you can stop looking.” In 2021, NBC News reported on an email exchange around the time of Trump’s first presidential run in which Moreno referred to Trump as a “lunatic” and a “maniac.”

On Saturday, however, Moreno praised Trump as a “great American” and railed against those in his party who have been critical of the former president, who this week became his party’s presumptive nominee for a third straight election.

“I am so sick and tired of Republicans that say, ‘I support President Trump’s policies but I don’t like the man,’” he said as he joined Trump on stage.

Trump also continued to criticize Biden over his handling of the border as he cast migrants as less than human. “In some cases, they’re not people, in my opinion,” he said. … He also criticized the Dolan family, which owns Cleveland’s baseball team, for changing its name from the Cleveland Indians to the Cleveland Guardians.

  • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    38
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    I don’t understand why he is allowed to say these things without consequences. Bloodbaths? Seriously?! It’s beyond the pale now.

      • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        25
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        9 months ago

        Yeah, he didn’t mean it like that! We should totally give the benefit of the doubt to the guy who tried to do a violent coup once already!

        • Windex007@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          9 months ago

          You don’t have to give anyone the benefit of anything.

          If you read the article, the bloodbath statement was during a rant about how the continual outsourcing of production of the American auto industry will result in an industry bloodbath.

          I HATE Trump.

          But even more than that, I hate that as a result of 9 years of this constant nonsense from him, I hate that all of the adults have just given up.

          NPR heard the word “bloodbath” and “immigration” 20 minutes and several distinct topics away from eachother? That’s the headline. Done.

          Then people like you, read the headline and then literally nothing else. It wouldn’t be so bad if you only read the headline and then kept your mouth shut, but you read … What is that FOURTEEN words, and feel like you’re prepared to have an adult conversation on that basis?

          Like what the fuck happened to us as a society. Like, was it Trump? Was it earlier, with the Bushian notion of “truthiness”? Was it capitalism crushing news media out of the realm of fact and objectivity into what it is now: literally argued in court to merely be “entertainment”? How has it come to be that speaking about something you know nothing about is societally viewed as “fine”, rather than an embarrassment… Yet asking people to actually read something before commenting on it gets you mocked?

          Are you allergic to reading?

          • assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            9 months ago

            I honestly think it’s the internet as a whole that’s done that to us.

            You used to be able to not know things, but now I’m expected to have encyclopedic knowledge of every factor going into any individual choice I make as though I’ve gotta min/max my life. I think the expectation that everyone needs to have an opinion on everything because “the information is available, just Google it!”, combined with the fact that we have a limited rate of knowledge consumption and limited bandwidth has led to people just skimming information. Shortest path to having an “informed” opinion on every topic, because God forbid you don’t know something online.

            I think in order to increase our media literacy we must return to partial ignorance.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    But Trump used the stage to deliver a profanity-filled version of his usual rally speech that again painted an apocalyptic picture of the country if Biden wins a second term.

    “He wants another January 6, but the American people are going to give him another electoral defeat this November because they continue to reject his extremism, his affection for violence, and his thirst for revenge,” Singer charged in a statement.

    Questions about the profile have circulated in GOP circles for the past month, sparking frustration among senior Republican operatives about Moreno’s potential vulnerability in a general election, according to seven people who are directly familiar with conversations about how to address the matter.

    Trump, in his remarks, also accused Biden of posing a threat to Social Security as he continued trying to clean up comments from an interview earlier this week in which he appeared to voice openness to cuts.

    And that includes Medicare, by the way, and American seniors are going to be in big trouble," he warned, even though Biden has pledged to protect and strengthen Social Security as it faces a projected budget shortfall.

    Just days after entering the Senate race, LaRose endorsed Trump for president — reversing an earlier stance that the state’s elections chief should remain politically neutral.


    The original article contains 1,155 words, the summary contains 213 words. Saved 82%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

    • Windex007@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      9 months ago

      So, who are “you guys”, in this scenario? Lemmings?

      Because the title of the post is VERBATIM the title of the linked article.

      …Did you read the article, the article that you’re suggesting people are intentionally misunderstanding his rhetoric on?

      No. You didn’t either. I know you didn’t either, because it explicitly puts it into context:

      “If I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country,” he warned, while talking about the impact of offshoring on the country’s auto industry and his plans to increase tariffs on foreign-made cars.

      So, you’re right, kind of. You’re the worst kid of right. “Accidentally not quite wrong”.

      Like, fist of all: Fuck NPR for his headline. Clearly intentionally misleading.

      Second of all: Fuck everyone commenting about how “it tracks”, without ever even fucking reading the article.

      And third of all: Fuck you for going off on people for chastising people while you yourself didn’t even read the article.

      If you are included in any of my fuck yous: I mean it. you are literally actively involved in the dismantling of Western Democracy so seriously fuck you.

      If you weren’t included, but are offended by my fuck yous, actually fuck you too for enabling it.

      If you actually read the article before opening your mouth, no matter your position: you’re cool.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        9 months ago

        The thing to note here is that terminology like this isn’t intended to actually communicate something about the topic at hand. It really doesn’t matter if Trump was talking about immigration, the auto industry, or economics, the point is that his base wants to hear an aggressive tone, and violent rhetoric sells that.

        So the takeaway here is that Trump is riling up his base, and that he chooses to use violent language to do so is concerning. He’s juxtaposing violent, aggressive speech and election outcomes, and that’s not a good look for someone who is accused of aiding and abetting an insurrection intended to keep him in power.

        At least that’s my takeaway, reading a bit between the lines.

        • natecheese@kbin.melroy.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          9 months ago

          Trump’s all about using strong emotional language without actually saying anything. Using vague language so that you can interpret it however you want is kind of his trademark.

          Rush Limbaugh was also a master of it, and conservatives have convinced themselves he was a great man too.

        • Windex007@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          9 months ago

          Totally fair. It’s entirely appropriate to raise this concern in the way that you have. It provides the space for people have have the discussion rooted in objective fact.

        • Windex007@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          9 months ago

          I’m sorry… Your point is that people will jump on any lie that paints him in a bad light…

          And so you’re suggesting, after being presented with the actual facts (which actually is the version that paints him in the best light), that we reject those too…

          And just choose your version of events, that you conjured out of thin air (having admitted and demonstrated that you never read past the headline)?

          How is that any different than jumping on a lie? Except that this is actually worse. Before you were just ignorant. Now you know better, but you haven’t changed your mind and are still pushing nonsense.

          It’s been said that one should never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. I’ve changed my mind on you.