your human generated slop is still slop

ah so an edgy 12 years old

Ah yes, immediately descending into personal attacks once faced with actual counterpoints to your drivel. Bravo.

Wow amazing counterpoint there truly worthy of an edgy 12 year old. Incredible how you can’t comprehend that a socialist society will still have contradictions, but the nature of the government is fundamentally different from one ruled by capitalists. The fact that you reposted that Luxemburg quote shows that you don’t actually understand what she’s saying.

My point is this: you are utterly clueless on the subject you’re attempting to discuss, and you should spend the time to actually learn about it instead of flaunting your ignorance in public and embarrassing yourself.

But the only thing we can do is fight for it, and have the optimism that we can get there.

Really highlights how the west is no longer economically relevant.

you’re a scumbag

Except it’s not just Trump. Everybody in the chain of command is culpable and directly complicit. Every single one.

Yup, attacking water systems is a violation of the Geneva conventions and a clear unlawful order of which members of the military are compelled to not follow as they are bound by the Geneva Conventions and trained on it.

Protocol I (Article 54) and Protocol II (Article 15) of the Geneva Conventions prohibit attacking, destroying, or rendering useless objects indispensable to civilian survival, such as drinking water installations, dams, and dykes.

Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention prohibits collective penalties and all measures of intimidation or terrorism. Threatening to cut off electricity and water to an entire population as a means of coercing political compliance clearly constitutes collective punishment.

Destroying Iran’s electric and water supply is a war crime.

Amazing contribution to the discussion there. Using google translate to make sure we know you’re clown really is a cherry on top.

Oh wow, you really think you’ve discovered something groundbreaking here. Yup, nobody has ever heard of contradictions or commodity production under socialism. You’re the first genius to point out that private ownership and wage labor still exist in China. Truly a revelation that would make Marx weep with joy!

The fact that you think socialism means the immediate abolition of every bourgeois relation overnight tells me your understanding of the subject comes from memes and a cursory skimming of a single Wikipedia paragraph. Socialism is not some sort of an utopia handed down from the heavens. It is a transitional society that emerges from capitalism and is therefore stamped with all the birthmarks of the old society. Commodity production, wage differentials, and even the market economy persist precisely because you cannot wave a magic wand and instantaneously create abundance and perfect class consciousness.

China’s gig economy and the hukou system are real problems and nobody with a functioning brain denies that. But the difference between China and a capitalist country is that the state, led by the Communist Party representing the working class, is actively intervening to regulate, reform, and suppress these contradictions. Hokou reforms are a perfect example of this. The food delivery fine you cited, a mere 1.5% of profit, is indeed insufficient and that is a legitimate criticism. But to present that as evidence that China is simply capitalist is to ignore the fact that the government has the legal and political power to improve the situation which is precisely what they are doing. The very fact that the regulator fined them at all, that the public outcry is taken seriously, that the party openly discusses the need to break monopoly capital, is something no bourgeois state would even pretend to do.

You want a socialist society with zero exploitation, zero inequality, and zero contradictions. That is called communism, and it will take a long time to get there. In the meantime, socialist societies are messy, uneven, and full of tensions just like every human society that has ever existed. That is an argument against socialism that only a person with an utterly infantile understanding of politics and economics could make. Your gotcha list just proves you have the analytical depth of a child.

really love how you just can’t help but keep replying here, a true master of perseveration

Do give a concrete example of me ignoring class dominance. It’s hard to take people who just make up unsubstantiated personal attacks instead of engaging in honest discussion seriously. Perhaps, you should actually spend the time to learn about these countries instead of making a clown of yourself in public.

aww muffin, I’d be so insulted by that if I had a shred of respect for you

Thank you for admitting you were just trolling earlier and you’re perfectly aware of what the alternatives are.

Last I checked, China, Vietnam, Cuba, and DPRK exist. I’m sorry that I’ve underestimated the sheer extent of your ignorance on the subject you’re opining on.

Western implementation of democracy is indeed a sham while the working class majority do deserve a genuine vote is not the contradiction you seem to think it is bro.

You’re the only one talking about modern Russia here further highlighting your utter lack of intellectual integrity. Pathetic.

lmfao nobody is supporting fascism to own the libs here, that’s just an idiotic straw man you came up with being utterly unable to engage with the argument honestly