It’s really spurring Chinese companies to make LLMs that don’t need a lake of water to tell you how many r’s there are in strawberry. 🤣

I was gonna be snarkier, and forgot to delete whatever :)

very much so

PSL is a ray of hope

like fix the grammar?

Unit 731 is alive and well…

I think slop should really be defined by the purpose of the art rather than the medium. Any piece of advertisement is inherently far more slop than a piece of genAI art somebody made because they just had an idea in their had they wanted to express.

@Cowbee@lemmy.ml good news :)

Not necessarily, the models can often be tricked into spilling the beans of how they were trained.

Exactly, open models are basically unlocking knowledge for everyone that’s been gated by copyright holders, and that’s a good thing.

You can demand it but it’s not an pragmatic demand as you claim. Open weight models aren’t equivalent to free software, they are much closer proprietary gratis software. Usually you don’t even get access to the training software and the training data and even if you did it would take millions of capital to reproduce them.

This is a problem that can be solved by creating open source community tools. The really difficult and expensive part is doing the initial training.

You can put into your license whatever you want but for it to be enforceable it needs to grant licensee additional rights they don’t already have without the license. The theory under which tech companies appear to be operating is that they don’t in fact need your permission to include your code into their datasets.

There have been numerous copyleft cases where companies were forced to release the source. There’s already existing legal precedent here.

The actual problem is the capitalist system of relations. If it’s not AI, then it’s bitcoin mining, NFTs, or what have you. The AI itself is just a technology, and if it didn’t exist, capitalism would find something else to shove down your throat.

here are just a few

• https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/ai-predicts-nuclear-fusion-plasma-failure
• https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3332736/central-china-ai-telling-humans-how-build-high-speed-rail-tunnel
• https://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-02/18/c_138795661.htm
• https://www.newscientist.com/article/2511954-amateur-mathematicians-solve-long-standing-maths-problems-with-ai/
• https://mathstodon.xyz/@tao/115855840223258103
• https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/ai-program-plays-the-long-game-to-solve-decades-old-math-problems

This is the correct take. This tech isn’t going away, no matter how much whinging people do, the only question is who is going to control it going forward.

For sure, even if the person making the original comment is just trolling, an explanation helps other people reading the thread.

Fair, I should work on being a bit more patient. It’s just so tiring when people keep regurgitating these same tropes that have already been addressed time and again. Kudos on your patience dealing with this sort of stuff and actually explaining things.

It’s one of the more subtle propaganda narratives I find. On the surface it almost makes sense, but once you apply materialist analysis the whole thing falls apart because the whole discussion of democracy is meaningless when the means of production are privately owned. This arrangement takes away from public debate the key question of who governs our common economic life and to what ends?

Genuine democracy must include the power to shape the material conditions of our existence. The nature of labour, the distribution of its fruits, and the purpose for which we can produce are fundamental decisions we make as a society. When these are decided by a capitalist class alone with the absolute authority of private property, then political democracy becomes merely an ornamental competition on secondary issues. Citizens vote to choose politicians, but not regarding the structure of industry or finance, or the necessity for maximum profit which places all social and ecological considerations in a subordinate position. This creates an inherent contradiction where citizens are called equals politically, yet remain subordinates economically.

Any system where there is a private dictatorship over industry is not democracy but a carefully staged charade which legitimises the rule of money through the hollow ritual of elections. So you can have as many parties as you like, but there’s no actual democracy to be had.

O7

orly? https://jasonhickel.substack.com/p/is-china-doing-colonialism-in-africa