Yes, you can run Qwen 3.6 27b on your laptop and have it do useful work, and it’s more capable than frontier models from a year ago or so. https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.6-27b

It’s kind of funny how China is actually doing these things right now while Americans are talking it up. I think what we’ll see in practice will be this manifesto applied to China.

Yeah, but if Chinese companies get serious about getting into the chip game, that’s a pretty good foundation to build on already.

yeah that’s the key sentence right there

I’m guessing it’ll take a year or two for that to get ironed out. The nice thing about the tau folding process Huawei came up with is that it’s complimentary with euv. So, once Chinese companies do master it, their chips will be that much better.

Yeah, I guess it is targeted to US techbro audience.

ZLUDA is still actively developed https://github.com/vosen/ZLUDA

I expect the costs will come down once they scale up production.

Sure, but try extrapolating 2 or 3 years into the future here. Models are going to become more efficient and hardware is going to improve. Right now Chinese companies are just starting to put out GPUs, but once that process is ironed out, I don’t see why they wouldn’t put out chips that work well with Chinese models. This kind of stuff is happening already, it’s only a matter of time till it makes it to consumer market. too https://lushbinary.com/blog/deepseek-v4-huawei-ascend-ai-infrastructure-strategy

Chinese companies are very much ramping up production fo consumer devices right as we speak. I expect we’ll see the same thing we saw with stuff like solar panels and EVs in the coming years. https://www.techspot.com/news/112529-china-first-credible-gaming-gpu-sells-30000-units.html

I guess gonna have to hope that Chinese companies ramp up production soon. Might have to smuggle that hardware in though at the rate things are going.

This is a hilarious self own for the US. It basically shows the world how dangerous it is to rely on American tech since it can just be yank from under you. Imagine if you’re making a US model as an integral part of your business and wake up to this. All this will do is to drive the rest of the world to use Chinese tech that’s not subject to this kind of fuckery. And at least when you’re using open models, even if the company shuts them down or changes terms in the way you don’t like, you always have the option to self host. If you’re relying on a proprietary model then you’re shit out of luck.

My view is that we’re basically in the mainframe era of AI, but local models are already getting good enough to do useful stuff. Qwen 3.6 in particular is very capable, and you can do real work with it. So, extrapolate this into a couple of years into the future and it’s almost certain that we’ll be able to run models that perform as well as current frontier models locally. And that means companies are going to be much more likely to self host as well. In fact, I think you’re completely right that the immediate target will be business customers that want to self host their own models before this tech really gets to consumer grade.

I mean anybody who lived through the rise of Linux on the server should understand the benefit of releasing common infrastructure in the open and amortizing costs that way. The real difference in philosophy is that Americans companies treat the model as the product, while Chinese companies see models at infrastructure you build products on top of. You amortize the cost of deploying it at scale by sharing knowledge and iterating quickly to bring the cost down.

Yeah, NVIDIA knows they have to pivot to the consumer market soon. Apple seems to be going in that direction as well.

So, now it’s now been proven in court: this US puppet tried to restart the Korean War with covert acts of aggression against the DPRK.

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