My strategy for overcoming this is to congratulate myself out loud so they know not to answer until I’m done.
My strategy for overcoming this is to congratulate myself out loud so they know not to answer until I’m done.
Yes, I am disagreeing with human pattern recognition. People absolutely do not work towards their rational self interests. Ayn Rand is/was wrong. People have been voting against their own self interests for decades. Centuries. People ALREADY are reaping the results of their actions. What do you think leopardsatemyface is? How many of those stories conclude with “still a trump supporter tho”?
What is empathy? I don’t have some wild definition. Cambridge is fine “the ability to share someone else’s feelings or experiences by imagining what it would be like to be in that person’s situation.”
Set aside any moral justification for empathy if you want, it’s not even required to make the case for why you should have it.
If you want to change someone’s behaviors, ESPECIALLY ones that are from your perspective irrational, you need to understand why they’re doing them in the first place. Empathy is how you can understand that.
If you don’t have empathy (Like Ayn Rand, for example) you’ll end up with a wildly inaccurate model for someones behaviors (as in, they’re working towards their rational self interests), and as a result your strategies for making a difference is going to be ineffective.
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle”
STRICTLY from a PRAGMATIC angle, empathy is a critical tool.
Yes, we can accept that we’re all multifaceted. We contain multitudes. We can love some things about a person, and hate others.
Difficulties really only arise when we choose to make the broadest judgements into the narrowest categories. The whole must be good, the whole must be bad.
I hate how brutal he can be. I love how brutal he can be.
I think people are too obsessed with assigning a binary state to a whole human. It’s downright offensive.
Empathy and tolerance aren’t the same thing.
You should not tolerate intolerance.
All of that, ALL OF IT, is completely tangential to the concept of empathy.
I get it, you’ve got a lot of hate. You SHOULD hate Nazis. It’s an uncomfortable challenge to have the capacity for empathy for someone you hate.
And like, I don’t understand how people can’t recognize the value of empathy even for a strictly pragmatic purposes. A byproduct of people with strong empathy skills is they’re good at predicting what someone is going to do.
Honestly, what are you afraid of? Are you afraid if you mentally explore someone else’s situation from that persons perspective, feel the way they feel… That what? YOU’LL suddenly realize YOU’RE actually a Nazi too? Whoopsie Poopsie? Give yourself a little more credit than that.
Anyhow, you and Elon should go for beers sometime and just agree with eachother all night about how you shouldn’t empathize with people.
Edit: also, for the record, the right wing appeals to the paradox of tolerance to justify what they do to undocumented people. They broke the law, the social contract, so the law doesn’t apply to them (insert hillbilly laugh).
You’re still muddling concepts.
Someone can be blameworthy. That’s one thing.
Then bad things can happen to them, and those things might be just. They might DESERVE those things. That’s another thing.
Can you feel empathy towards that person, that’s a third thing still.
I can’t stress enough: these three concepts are distinct.
It’s also worth pointing out how lacking empathy actually trends towards horrible actions, and that those horrible actions often produce reactions baffling to the empathy less and obvious to those with empathy.
Honestly, what you’re describing sounds a LOT like the lines out of Israel Re: Palestinians. The royal “they” support Hamas? Time for consequences, or they’ll never learn. Oh, now they hate us even more? The generational cycle of hatred continues? How could they not graciously accept our lessons?
Like… It’s the obvious outcome. Intentionally thrust people into poverty to teach them a lesson?
I understand where it comes from, the Trump stuff. I get it. There is no justice. It’s FRUSTRATING.
One can dream of justice without lusting for punishment
Don’t confuse a thirst for justice with a disdain for empathy. Killing your own empathy ISN’T justice, and the only thing you’ve done is made yourself lesser. Send not to know for whom the bell tolls
I agree that they brought it on themselves.
There are a few concepts that are getting muddled here, blameworthyness, and empathy. Both for you as the observer, and they as the subjects.
I don’t think it’s good to equate the two. They’re distinct.
Should a laid-off oil worker struggling to feed their family be worthy of empathy from a republican voter if they themselves had voted Democrat? Would you celebrate the republican proudly declaring they had no empathy?
Would Elon Musk be celebrating your announcement now? He has declared empathy to be weakness, and you’ve announced that you’ve managed to squash yours for a large swathe of the population.
People can be to blame for their own pain. Does that mean they deserve no empathy?
And, what have you done to yourself in doing so? What human part of yourself have you killed or let whither to get to where you are now?
It’s easy to be empathetic to people who are like yourself. It’s more difficult to be empathetic to those different.
Regardless of blameworthyness, I don’t think we should be proud of our ability to feel no empathy for others. It may be the case, but that’s a personal weakness.
Shortly before he started signing his name after that.
It’s crazy to me how he’s been on Twitter for decades but is somehow regressing to more geriatric patterns. This is what I’d expect an 80 year old to do when first joining Twitter.
But this motherfucker has been tweeting for years. WHY NOW?
Poinignant illustration of a flux capacitor
At work whenever we need to build little command line tools, my team is always vexxed by my guideline to have the meat+potatoes in a script that reads well-formatted data off stdin , and outputs well formatted-data to stout. They always wanna have some stupid interactive prompts and saving to files baked right in.
This is exactly why. You wanna save to a file?? > file
You want to read from a file? cat |
You want to save to a file but swap commas for colons? Sed.
You get so much FOR FREE w/ the GNU toolkit, even for what you build yourself, by thinking in streams.
GOOD FOLLOW UP!!
I was about to shit a brick that you went from “go to the official trusted source” to “just trust me: curl [x] | sudo bash”
I voted your comment up btw
I’m on that honour system now
Still only glancing off of the root of the issue: Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
Site but on the blockchain. Site but in the metaverse. Site but with NFTs. Site but with AI.
I’m in fintech and honestly I wouldn’t have made any of these assumptions… Because I’ve long ago given up on the idea that any real world system is anything better than loose heuristics.
Like, I could be pleasantly surprised at some point… But honestly even if a PO swore up and down that something was “certain” I probably wouldn’t even believe them.
I’m also surprised that they didn’t mention that a flight could arrive on a calendar day before it departs.
They were governors of Florida
This is right, where every other comment in this thread is wrong.
Don’t take the bait.
Even just a flat OK is better than taking the bait. Honestly, silence is better.
Do you care? Then you are poor and mad.
Right now it’s just buzz and empty promises to not sound “left behind” to shareholders.
Even if it could generate code that could be massaged into a production-ready state at a cost less than having human-only developers (colour me skeptical), I think middle-management would actively sabotage it. You can’t fill your day with pointless meetings when your developers are AI agents.
So, I actually think the idea is only taken “seriously” at the very highest levels. I expect several layers of resistance even before it hits the actual engineers… Not because it’s a fantasy with no grounding in engineering reality which is ultimately doomed to fail, merely out of self-preservation.
You have 1 week.
I’m so far beyond the point of caring how people look at me, and so far past the point of wanting to talk to anyone.
What you’ve just described would be considered total victory.