I guess they are screwed now.
awesome! for a moment i was worried famine wouldn’t be one of the things this administration would bring about.
Sir, this is clearly pestilence.
And with climate change, it could possibly spread further north than it used to, before it was eradicated in the US.
‘Murica got exactly what’ Murica deserved
There are awful, powerful people in the background pulling the levers of power, but this isn’t new
It has always been fucked. It wasn’t founded on the ideals of freedom or anything noble
It was stolen, then built with slavery, and that slavery was just rebranded as capitalism so white people would buy into it, so long as they still felt superior to everyone else
The cruelty and greed have always been the defining characteristics
You mean rich white guys who didn’t want to pay taxes. I’m shocked America turned out the way it did.
Trump embodies the USA and is the direct result we could only get from our two party system.
That’s why I don’t necessarily blame one person here. George Carlin said it best. Selfish ignorant people vite for selfish ignorant leaders. If it wasn’t him it’d be someone else. The problem isn’t one person, it’s that such a massive amount of voters are selfish and willfully ignorant.
George Carlin also said he doesn’t vote and I didn’t agree with that. But that was one of the few things he said I actually disagreed with.
One of your own poets articulated nicely:
Sold, stolen, arriving on the nightmare Praying for a dream.
Daily reminder that the US government is a doomsday cult. This is is by design.
Still not sure if Genestealer cultist or chaos gods
Once trump dies they’re going to hoist his corpse on a golden throne and sacrifice Kid Rock fans daily just to keep him going.
This sounds like a scene in a Metalocalypse episode.
Starring RFK Murderface Murderface.
Working as intended.
Big brain billionaire syndrome
Yeah well what’s the profits this quattwr? I don’t have time to think about next quarter!
They will always be protected from the consequences of their actions. Always.
This is so much more horrifying than I realized. Humans can get it too. Here’s a CDC article on it if you dare. https://www.cdc.gov/new-world-screwworm/about/index.html
Symptoms can include
Feeling maggots (larvae) move or seeing maggots within a skin wound or sore, or in the ears, nose, eyes, or mouth. Painful skin wounds or sores that worsen within a few days. A foul-smelling odor from the site of the infestation. Bleeding from open sores.Yeah, that doesn’t sound fun.
Seeing maggots move within the eyes. Yeah, I think I can go without meat in that case.
You are the meat, in that case.
Yeaaaaah, was just reading about screwworms. I didn’t realize it was the parasite that embeds itself into your wounds and eats your flesh. Oh boy oh boy!
Same with your dogs and cats. Nearly all mammals.
Which mammals can’t get it?
Republic…. Actually they are reptiles
In fairness they’ve been spreading Northward yearly for several years, we knew they were coming and eradication efforts have been underway for a while to try to blunt it. But, with the idiots currently in charge, just assume those efforts have been botched until proven otherwise.
the eradication program ended in 22-23, they were making headway ever since. likely it wouldve been restored under harris, A GOP wh will never restore something like this. they always end using budget cuts to fund TAX CUTS.
At no point did the eradication program end. In 23-24 Biden’s USDA quadrupled funding to the Panama facility producing sterile flies. The facility had been underfunded for years (/wave Trump1) and at some point during Covid lost contain of the Darian Gap, officially reaching “we fucked up” thresholds in 2022.
It’s the now classic answer to “Why is this happening now?” Trump fucked it up, Biden tried to fix it without any sense of urgency because he just assumed he’d get eight years, and then Trump came back and fucked it up again.
Biden tried to fix it without any sense of urgency
I would say funding it at 4x is pretty urgent
Sadly, no. That response in 2018-2021 would have been urgent, appropriate. By waiting until 2023 when reports were coming out in '21 that the Darian Gap was failing and '22 that it had failed, Biden did in fact drop the ball. The administration chose to try to work with/through Central American governments who, frankly, hadn’t dealt with screwworms in over a generation and were poorly equipped or completely clueless. Also, it’s worth noting, this facility was relatively inexpensive to operate at less than $20M/year. We had a beautiful system in place but Republican ignorance and Democrat pussyfooting has put us in a terrible position. The sunbelt population boom of the last 50 years was not just about AC.
Biden was inaugurated in '21. Why did it take multiple years for that funding to be budgeted?
Maybe you don’t remember, but before Trump, we didn’t accept presidential rule by decree
Also incorrect. USDA has a great deal of discretionary funding. The new $750M facility being build in Texas (several thousand km from the Darian Gap = great plan!) was approved internally at USDA. There was nothing stopping the funding in '21 other than not recognizing how dire the problem could become in just a few years.
Well, except for small, unimportant things like sending people to another country to go kill people.
So did the dems use presidential decree to get the funding in 2023?
Bullshit. Republicans always believed in it.
I’d assume at least 10x was asked, and it took years for the funding to arrive
Everything you would want to know about the history of the screw worm is here: https://youtu.be/lL8GnFtKliU
Australia once again vindicated for banning beef from the USA years ago.
We do a fair job at banning some of their people too
I like seeing local losers pay for tickets to the speaking event of some utter cunt who will be refused a visa, and then the pathetic losers whine about losing their money
Yeah, I hear you. Sky and the cookers have done a number on people out there.
I live in what is considered “regional” Australia
The inbred hicks who think that sharing a name with a coloniser who died a hundred years ago is a flex resent it when they’re shown up as simple, unworldly people
They resent the stereotypes, but they go out of their way to reinforce all of the worst of them
Luckily, they’re not Queenslanders, or Territorians, so it could be worse
I still have say that I live in paradise, but I choose my company
Hmmm… Guess what percentage of the owners who raise cattle voted for the orange moron?
98.5%, 99% or 99.5?
100%
Farm people always vote against their own interests - and it shows.
You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know . . . morons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYTQ7__NNDI
Favourite scene of all time. I don’t think Cleavon Little knew it was coming and was genuinely laughing.
It was completely genuine, as the “you know… morons” part was adlibbed by Wilder. Little was already visibly struggling to hold a straight face as is, so when Wilder added that last part it made him crack. The film crew decided to keep that take in the movie because of how funny it was, but as the scene transitions you can see Wilder look towards the film crew as he wasn’t sure if they would redo the scene because of it.
Letting comedic geniuses adlib on film should be the most common get rich quick scheme on Earth.
If you utterly dismiss farmers as incorrigibly stupid rather than trying to talk with them, they will never change. If you leave agricultural workers to the wolves while the fascists pretend to have their backs, will they support you or the fascists?
Did you know most of the majority-black counties in the USA are rural areas in the South that vote overwhelmingly for Democrats? Are they also ejeets that deserve to get their cows screwed?
What about the people who get screwworms in their injuries? That’s gonna be the poor bastards who get employed to work with the livestock. Who works in shitty underpaid farm labour? Poor whites, black people, immigrants. People who have few other choices.
Snobbery against rural areas is just classism. It’s how Republicans could get such a grip on them in the first place. Go ahead and only struggle amongst educated people in the cities and scratch your head when when your country stays fascist. Watch the rural-urban divide get wider.
This is a really bad take on the situation dude.
Yeah none of this is a surprise. Trump has done what he promised. I told many conservatives this, and they just refused to believe it. Or some even dismissed some of the things Trump said “as just politics” claiming he had no intent to keep his crazier campaign promises.
It’s just the standard conservative play-by-play of
It’s not going to happen -> it’s not happening-> maybe it is happening but it’s not our fault -> it is happening but it’s too late to do anything about it. Alternatively replace step 3 with “but the dems do it too!!”
Anything else they just slap on a thought-terminating TDS label and move on.
I have spent quite a bit of time trying to convince Irish farmers to be left-wing, to understand that imperialism is the reason their gas prices are high and not the carbon tax. One of the biggest obstacles is that to them the urban left and liberals dismiss them as lost causes. Of course they don’t vote for snobs who don’t know wtf the CAP is and think that everyone outside of Dublin is an idiot redneck. Of course they listen to the silver-tongued devils of the right.
They were consistently surprised I care at all. Is that not shameful?
I live in Washington State, which is a similar size to Ireland. I live on the east side of the state in the second most populated city. Similar to Cork. It has much of the same dynamic. Dublin being like Seattle to us. Everyone loves to complain about the biggest city am I right? So anyways we have one Federal Represenitive for our side of the state and it was usually a liberal and at one point one of the most powerful in Congress (Tom Folley) but since then the Republicans have dominated the slot. Thing is that our area is mostly farm land.
I understand what you are getting at but the reality is that the farmers are not voting in their best interst most of the time. Identity politics are more import to them then the politics of supporting rural farm life. They would rather vote for the person that paints urban voters as haters and gay and baby killers then vote for the liberal that wants to support their school systems and make the environment healthy by controlling the pollution or overuse of the land. Its maddness and frustrating and I see it in real time because I am engaged with it both in personal life and my job.
I get what you mean. I won’t pretend like bigotry isn’t a core plank of the platform of the GOP or Independent Ireland. Still, an awful lot of bigoted people still felt the allure of people like Bernie Sanders and may join a trade union in certain circumstances. Such things also go a long way towards moving them away from bigotry if they succeed, because it shows that gay people and migrants were never the thing making them miserable.
My point though is moreso that saying that the farmers had it coming and giving up on them is not how one digs one’s way out of the pit one is stuck in. I don’t particularly wanna turn my back on conservative communities as irreparably fucked and feel proud of being smarter than them. I would like the community around me to be better. And saying that the farmers had it coming rather than using the opportunity to push them left is essentially patting oneself on the back for moral superiority rather than making life better.
I’m a migrant myself. I chose to come another country and integrate myself. I’d quite like it to be nicer, y’know?
I understand where you’re coming from, but I can’t sympathize with people who hurt themselves trying to hurt me. They did real damage voting the way they did and having to suffer the consequences of their actions is the only justice I’m going to get.
Do you think all of them voted this way?
As I said, a bunch of the people hurt by this are gonna be immigrant labourers, black people, etc. They’re in the shit with you, not against you. You’re not gonna get them organized and mobilized to stand alongside you by dismissing them and lumping them in with their bosses.
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They’re entitled welfare queens (that absolutely refuse to acknowledge their welfare because they’re entitled) that vote consistently against everyone’s best interest so they can keep growing garbage corn that we turn into garbage fuel that destroys engines. Fuck farmers. Monoculture bullshit fucking the soil.
Are the folks employed by the owners, the ones who are personally at risk of getting screwworms in their wounds and at risk of losing their jobs so bosses can keep up profits, entitled welfare queens? They’re poor workers like you.
And what of the black farmers in Tennessee? They overwhelmingly vote for the Democrats. Do they also deserve parasites in their cattle?
They deserve what they voted for, farmers overwhelmingly vote for republicans.
Did Hispanic farmhands vote for Republicans? They’re the ones that are gonna be directly at risk of getting screwworms in their injuries. If the bosses scale down operations, they’re gonna be the ones who lose their jobs.
Do the 12% of farmers in Tennessee who are black also deserve to get fucked?
You do not defeat right-wing populists with snobbery. You defeat it by offering a compelling left-wing alternative that addresses the economic issues which bigotry is peddled as an alleged solution to.
it will be 0 once the screworms decimate the herds.
As we know Mexico being endemic to the parasite has cattle
Literally has nothing to do with Trump or Trump voters.
While the USDA has long been prepared and will just repeat their actions of last time—which the article implies they’re already ready to do as it escalates—it’s more a concern of what happened to Central/South America, or the fly’s reproductive behaviours that has caused the safe zone to slowly get overrun these past few years.
If you really want to point this to Trump, I guess you’ll need to find some sort of link to something the US did that somehow caused Panama and then Mexico to get re-invaded, about 6-12 months before he was in office.
Edit: Imagine he catches wind of it though and decides to fuck it all by putting RFK Jr. in charge at the last minute…
The moron cut a critical organization when a major threat was known to be migrating north.
The agency needed a massive influx of resources for an expanded effort to control it this year.
No the root cause is not his fault, but his dumbass decisions the the fucking morons who voted for him are absolutely at fault for the shitty response.
That’s…not how the sterile tactic works. Anywhere in the world.
For starters, you think they’re just going to release everything in winter because last fall there were a couple of cases in proximity of the border? It’s insect ecology. Always wait for late-spring to summer before anything. Most generational breeding starts peak-summer period.
When we do this for mosquitos in SE Asia, African Lakes, South America, etc. you prepare, then go it at the right time.
“We had a case in Texas now! Unleash the horde!”
Aaaand you’re fucked.
Again, the main concern is about how infestation breached through north of South America and Central America to get to North America. There were proxy cases to the US border over the last six months which obviously meant it’d be in the US come warmer months—and that’s been factored for—but why did it get that far up the continent over the last two years?
These are things way outside of Trump’s wheelhouse and apparently Lemmy users that only come in here for US politics articles.
We lost containment because doge cut funding while beef snuggling in Mexico has ramped up, so it’s not just Trump’s fault. But he saw a brush fire and poured gas on it. Beef is going to a luxury for wealthy Americans. Just like pets are becoming. Somebody noticed that the bottom half of the country functionally does not participate in “the economy” so their solution is to eliminate them. Letting the screw fly run loose helps that goal. See also the repeal of environmental protections and regulations.
The shidas touch, touches everything.
Mierdas touch
that is so good
Conservatives only know how to do one thing while governing which is to close their eyes, turn off their headlights, press the gas pedal and dare the road to swerve as they hurtle ahead into the darkness with no clue what is going to happen.
Ironic we call them “conservatives”.
The only thing “conservatives” ever conserve, ever have conserved, or ever even intended to conserve, is hierarchical power. Conservatism only happens to line up with “preserving that which currently exists” in the sense that, when conservatism was initially developed, the system that currently existed was monarchy.
Make no mistake: under any system but monarchy/dictatorship, “conservatives’” single purpose will always be to transform it into monarchy/dictatorship as switftly, radically, and even recklessly as they can possibly manage.
It’s mind boggling how many people don’t know the origins of modern conservatism. The nobles that escaped having their heads chopped off with the king in France formed a political party to conserve the old hierarchical system to retain control of the country. From the start they are only motivated by power. If you ever wondered why they don’t really have any values or moral compass, that is the answer.
They’re called conservatives because they should all be in conservatorships. That being the case, I think they should be called asylumists.
conservatives don’t conserve anything. the word comes from “con-serva” which is latin and means with-slaves. what that means is that they were historically the pro-slavery party.
- https://www.online-latin-dictionary.com/latin-english-dictionary.php?parola=cum
- https://www.online-latin-dictionary.com/latin-english-dictionary.php?parola=servus
There could be scary things out there in the dark, let’s just pretend they’re not there :)
And we think beef is expensive now!
It’s aways a great time to join team veg!
Membership is open! Join for a single meal, or go hardcore and fully vegan! There’s no rules, you’re still on the team if you go veggie one meal a year or every single meal for the rest of your life. It’s flexible!
We’ve got tasty daals, chilis, curries, pan-seared mushroom steaks, a million flavors of hummus, tofus, pulled BBQ seitan, juicy vital wheat gluten roasts, and so much more!
It’s also cheap! Homemade hummus is incredible and light on the wallet! You’ll discover a world of extremely tasty foods!
As a vegan, this kind of language is inclusionary and promotes adoption of our lifestyle, even if it’s slow as molasses.
Thank you for your advocacy!
What’s your favorite simple and easy vegetarian recipe that’s filling?
I’m not vegetarian, I love me a good cheeseburger every once in a blue moon and always will, but I don’t eat a lot of red meat and I’ve been trying to eat less and less meat in general. I’m not going to pretend eating meat in today’s world is ethical, but neither will there be a noticeable difference if I stop buying my pound or two of chicken and a filet of fish every month. I grew up on a meat and potatoes diet and while I’ve learned a lot since then I’m still not great at cooking filling vegetarian meals, I feel like every time I cook completely without meat I end up absolutely starving in an hour, even if I have protein from other sources.
Spicy bean chili with crispy golden cornbread is a classic American dish that will stick to your ribs pardner!
I can nearly eat my weight in hummus and butter garlic naan with seitan tikka masla, very filling and so delicious!
Or if you’re ever not sure you’ll get full enough, kick back a baked potato 15 minutes before the meal, it’ll give you something to digest.
Slightly related I’m a big fan of trying to get 30g+ of fiber every day, and 1 tsp of psyllium husk in water before each meal. I’ll end up staying fuller longer and feel better.
Yeah not eating enough protein does that. Try TVP. It’s an extremely versatile (Chilli, Lasagne, meatloaf, meat balls, bolognese, Asian fried noodles etc.) and cheap (for now) replacement for ground beef. It seems to have a better amino acid profile than chicken:
TVP: https://www.admanimalnutrition.com/webcenter/content/conn/WCC1/uuid/dDocName%3ATVPSPECSHEET
It blows chicken out of the water regarding minerals like iron, magnesium or calcium. Compare the TVP-spec-sheet with this. Tofu (if made with gypsum as a coagulant) is even more packed with calcium, where 100g can already mean more than 1/2 of your daily needs.
Chicken comes with more vitamins (but also antibiotically resistant bacteria, chloride, growth hormones and animal suffering), while TVP brings anti-oxidants in the form of isoflavinoids.
Yeah it’s based on soybeans but you can see tons of manly man vegan body builders eating that stuff on a daily basis. They got big breasts but those are not from phythoestrogens.
Regarding your Burger addiction. TVP is the perfect remedy.
A quadrillion of websites exist for fire vegan recipes (which take care of the vitamins missing with TVP) with one of the most prolific one being https://www.noracooks.com/.
I’m not vegetarian either, but bean quesadillas are always a good, cheap, and easy meal when I’m lazy. It can be as easy as open a can of black beans, drain and rinse, put on a big tortilla with cheese and some jarred salsa, cook both sides in a frying pan. If I’m feeling like doing a little more, I’ll add some diced tomato and jalapenos. You can be eating in as little as 10 minutes.
So I grew up 95% vegetarian. Stir fry can be adapted to fit just about anyone’s taste, and is dead simple to make (and filling).
The first thing your going to want to learn is how to cook rice. This might be in a pot, rice cooker, or something else. Find what works for you.
Now with your rice cooking, do a hard pan fry of some tofu. Your goal is to get it crispy via the highest heat your stove can put out (think wok levels if you can). The trick is to use a firm (or extra firm) tofu that has been patted dry and cut into small cubes, oil and a lot of heat. From here add in a few veggies that you like and top with a basic teriyaki sauce.
That’s a basic stir fry on rice. Mix the rice into the pan and you start down the road of fried rice.
I like a good bowl meal. The template is grain/pseudo-grain, legume, two or three veggies, sauce. So you could have a quinoa and chickpea bowl with pickled red onions, kale, and roasted red peppers, topped with a hummus tahini sauce. Or a black bean and rice bowl with pickled jalapeños, grilled corn (which is also technically a grain but it still works as a vegetable) and chopped red tomatoes, with an avocado crema sauce. It’s extremely flexible, easy to make, and good for meal prepping. You can add an additional protein if it’s still not filling enough, like fried tofu or crumbled tempeh or seitan “chicken”.
It’s far from the only way to make an easy, filling veggie meal, but it’s one of the easiest frameworks for people used to the “meat, carb, vegetable side dish” style of meal.
I know you didn’t ask me but I also grew up on meat and potatoes.
I’ve recently discovered lentil enchiladas are very tasty. Cook the lentils in vegetable broth, after you have cooked lentils ( pretty good on there own) follow any enchilada recipe and use the lentils instead of meat.
I like to cook the lentils a day before so they are already prepared. The instant pot makes cooking both dried lentils and dried beans quite easy with minimal work.
Beans tacos. Basically cook canned black beans in taco seasoning and some water until the water cooks down. Then just throw whatever you like with your tacos on it. Cooking an onion in with the beans makes it even better, but it requires chopping an onion
In general I’ve found that a lot of meat recipes work well if you replace the meat with beans or mushrooms.
The bad thing is, this will effect all food prices. As one food price rises, people buy alternatives, which raises the price of everything else.
Still, they aren’t going to rise as much as beef, so it’s still a good idea to switch. It’s just good to keep in mind that no one is isolated.
Meh. Beef is pretty expensive to create in terms of raw resources and work. Much cheaper to just turn the cattle feed into human food.
Yes. That doesn’t mean it’s cost rising doesn’t increase the cost of everything else.
I love this. Im firmly in team veg but still haven’t given up meat. It may come one day, but for now im happy with about half my meals being vegetarian.
Yeah, there’s a really high Indian population in my area, and India has a huge vegetarian population. So most of the restaurants around me actually have decent veg options. I doubt I’d ever go fully vegan, but even casual “eat meat when you feel like it, but don’t intentionally make it the centerpiece of every meal” vegetarianism is extremely easy nowadays.
I dunno if this will help anyone eat more veggies, but I realized salads are way more enjoyable for me once I started mixing buldak sauce with my dressing.
Hail Seiten!
Hail seitan!
If I could, I would have done it years ago. I imagine there are others like me who have health issues that keep them from the switch. I’ve been to many medical professionals and I just can’t do it. I was told I actually have to eat more meat which sucks, but I do get sick if I don’t.
Please don’t do choco hummus
Being a vegetarian won’t save you from maggots eating your skin though.
think we can enlighten the maggots to switch their diets?
Well I think if you eat those we can all agree that is an ok exception to eating vegetarian, it is more like self defense at that point.
It’s pretty rare for it to infect people. It does happen, but humans are not a prefered host
Hail Seitan! 15+ years here vegan. Won’t ever go back.
It already got too expensive for me to justify, so any more doesn’t really change the calculus 🫠
