Well I believe this has happened. Wasn’t brachiosaurus found to be a mashup of multiple species? Or maybe it was a different one…

I’m assuming the research more meant that there were 3 cryptic species lumped into what we today call t-rex

I love hearing about these old struggles. Our history presents it as if everyone just accepted the tyranny of that time but the reality is people have always been fighting the same fight.

It’s also nice to know that some of my ancestors were trying to help people instead of all of the awful things the aristocracy were doing.

Great quote. Who said this?

I don’t have any issue with communism as it’s actually defined. A classless, moneyless, stateless society sounds nice but I’m unsure it’s possible. But I do have a problem with the charlatans who have come to be referred to as communists in popular parlance.

Similarly, I would say the rhetoric around color revolutions is actually anti-communist. Communism, among other things, is stateless, so if you are smearing and delegitimizing popular uprisings against oppressive governments, that is in reality an anti-communist mentality.

I’m sorry you’re sick. I can’t post on lemmygrad because slrpnk is defederated.

I’ll look on another device to see if they appear.

I did click the dropdown. I was fiddling with it and may have left it in the wrong state in this screenshot. Are you saying there should be references there but they aren’t displaying?

It also says pages needing references and the text itself contains no citations. So I’m finding this a bit hard to believe but if someone is able to confirm that would be helpful.

…what fucking page?

I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re describing a different page than the one I have now checked and confirmed like four times that it does not have references. If so, and you’re not just straight up lying, this is a problem you created by refusing to provide a simple link.

Oh to be clear there’s no factual information. But who they decide to tar and feather is interesting, since tankies can’t abide facts, real history, or true convictions of any kind. All need to be sacrificed before the altar of the great leader, whichever one it is they choose to bow before. If they’re falsely calling you an anti-communist, it’s a good sign, so thanks for the validation!

Argue against statist propaganda tactics? Sorry that bothers you so much but it really shouldn’t.

So you’re full of shit. Got it.

What the fuck does any of that mean?

I’m just asking people to share information and substantiate their claims. If they won’t do so then I assume they’re full of shit. That’s just how this works.

I’m not doing research to support your claims. That’s your job. The CIA has declassified mountains of documents, most of which are irrelevant to this question. And I can’t prove that something is not in there. You can prove it is. Or you can fail to do so.

Well I am using the term as distinct from a coup. A coup is when a small circle of power holders (usually but not always the military) seize power without the involvement of the masses.

When people talk about color revolutions in my experience, it’s usually an attempt to smear popular uprisings as being artificially created by some hostile foreign power. To my knowledge, such a thing has never happened. This is because it’s far more difficult to motivate the thousands or even millions of people needed to take such actions. You can’t simply pay them off or order them the way you can with a handful of generals.

The Shah was put in power in one of many coups supported or orchestrated by the US. But I would not describe it as a color revolution because there was little involvement of the general public. It was a struggle between elite factions.

Are these supposed to be links or what?

I reacted the way I did because you basically said “lol google it nerd” instead of providing useful information. You get what you give in online discourse.

I was more wondering if there was something specifically relevant to the black panthers as implied by the comic.

Also I’m not totally sure they’ve actually admitted to all that, though I’m sure it happened.

I was more wondering if there was a specific thing this comic was referencing. Perhaps in relation to the black panther depicted or something.

I know they wrote nasty letters and falsely signed them as leaders of other factions, but in the grand scheme of things that’s pretty mild stuff.

It’s just selectively chosen and distorted facts and invectives against the enemies of authoritarian leftists. It’s not a serious attempt to document reality.

As an example, I looked at the page on color revolutions the user above recommended. It’s just a series of unsupported assertions with no supporting evidence. It literally doesn’t contain a single reference.

I do find it useful for evaluating leftists though. I find when prolewiki criticizes them then it’s usually because they actually care about facts and have consistent values. So it does have some use.

Prolewiki is a joke. So you have nothing.

There’s simply no evidence any nation has been able to engineer a popular uprising. Such a thing is not possible. People feel how they feel and they hate their government for a reason.

Can you point to relevant documents? I have heard of involvement in coups but I have not heard anything about them being behind so-called color revolutions, which I believe is a dangerous made up word used to justify imperialist repression against dissidents and protesters.

Some on the right are now referring to the current events in Minnesota as a color revolution, and I believe this is a result of our lack of criticism of this very dubious term.