I’m sorry but you’re just totally ignorant on what you are talking about. I recommend reading Tending the Wild by anthropologist M Kat Anderson to educate yourself.

Indigenous land management was often more intensive than what we have been doing with uncultivated lands and indigenous groups in my local area have been trying to tell people for decades that it’s partially our neglect of these practices that are causing some of the problems we see today. So ironically you are the one who has not been listening.

I’m not saying they created issues, but I am saying they also had a fairly intensive system of land management. So if we move to a system of little or no human intervention, that’s not a state that has existed for tens of thousands of years and we don’t know what that looks like. Could involve major ecosystem shifts, species extinctions, major fires, who knows.

I’m talking about indigenous land management practices. It’s been a very long time since most places were not being managed by humans in some way.

So you think do nothing and hope the fires even out? I have wondered about this but it’s not clear what would happen since our ecosystems have not operated that way for tens of thousands of years–and had dozens of now extinct megafauna engineering them back then.

While I’m sure that would work, I don’t support conscription.

I love this topic but I feel like no one has a realistic solution for how we’re going to manage huge ecosystems in a very labor intensive fashion. I don’t think it’s really possible in the current socioeconomic context.

The natives did it by having the entire community involved. We may need to move towards something like that.

100%. Also humans seem to have a natural tendency to ideate about the apocalypse that goes beyond the rational. All kinds of people have been predicting the end of the world for millenia at minimum, and so far they’ve all been wrong. It’s a lot less likely than we think it is, and so predicating our ideas and actions on this fringe situation that is unlikely to happen in our lifetimes renders us less able to act in the conditions that will exist.

Implying US or Chinese citizens have rights lol

Are you telling me I could get paid to hand-crank my centrifuge? I’ve been doing it for free all these years.

Leave it to Musk to make Sam Altman seem like a reasonable adult.

As non insta user who’s being forced to dip my toes in for the purpose of community organizing: what are these and how do I use them?

That’s fucking wild.

He’s specifically anti-vegan? Like has he written in defense of factory farming?

Glad I’m not the only one who finds Gelderloos insufferable. I have to admit I’ve never finished one of his books because I just can’t he’s too arrogant.

True but also fuck off.

for absolutely no reason

🤔

Authoritarian leftist is an oxymoron.

US patriotism is fucking creepy as hell.

This is literally me 🤣

Well first was this guy’s ideology really distinct or is he just a fascist who talks about environmental issues as a post-hoc justification to make his objectively deranged actions seem more reasonable? And if he’s just a fascist I don’t think he need to take his justifications seriously by giving him a newly named ideology.

But I didn’t mean there are no singular eco-fascists anywhere on earth. There are 8 billion people on the planet so I could make up a mad lib ideology and chances are it’s similar to what someone somewhere believes. But I’ve never met one to my knowledge, not even online. There’s no organized push for this or political power behind it. The vast majority of fascists don’t give a shit about the environment and the vast majority of environmentalists oppose fascism. So the only time I see it mentioned is when people get criticized for discussing the impacts of human population.

I understand why it’s a touchy subject. Past racist policies used overpopulation as a justification for crimes against humanity. But that the human impact on the earth is proportional to our population is just a fact, and it doesn’t make you a fascist to acknowledge that. You’re only a fascist if you think that fact gives you a right to brutalize people, and, as I’ve said, I just don’t hear this from any organized or popular thinkers.