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    Some of the comments in this thread prove this correct - I’m so fuckin tired of people’s “opinion” regarding ADHD, like I’m sorry you can’t understand that brains can function in different ways. Growing up I received no help and had to adapt in various ways because of this bullshit viewpoint. Like ffs they gave me a separate desk away from the other students facing the wall and dumbfucks have the nerve to say that it doesn’t exist

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    My brother got an ASD diagnosis, and it’s impossible for me to get the other diagnosis. I just accepted that being where I am in my condition, means life is just not viable for me. I don’t even do well in this community.

    I’m just going to follow neurotypical advice until I’m dead. I have been able to get nothing done lately, and I don’t feel like living anymore.

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      This is basically all of psychiatry in a nutshell.

      • Subjectively group symptoms
      • Search for any drug that treats any symptom.
      • $$$$$!!!
      • Bonus: Deny, obscure, and oppose solutions to the actual social roots of the problem.
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      I was going to say we pumped kids with methalike drugs for ADHD. Is that reckless seeming? Fuck yeah, but it doesn’t seem like disinterest.

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        Any other suggestion/alternatives?

        If they have anything to do with “electromagnetic proximity to the lavandar essence” or religious suggestions, please keep it to yourself :)

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          Soooo “it all kinda depends.” I believe a part of it is how ADHD manifests in the person and the coping mechanisms they’ve found that works along with whether or not there are pre-existing habits/emotional baggage that may impact its effectiveness.

          There are actually, there are a few decent brands of nonstimulant ADHD drugs, with one brand being more popular among my ADHD diagnosed friends cause it works and doesn’t give them liver problems. I’m also not a doctor/talk to a doctor about these options.

          I’m personally very bad at focusing during conversations in person and in general, even on tv/movies and rely on captions to focus. If I can, I like to jot down notes where I’m fully transcribing lectures/meetings or I doodle on the side and it helps me focus on a person talking.

          If I can’t, it’s a full body experience that uses all of my energy and willpower when I try to actively engage and remember key details in a conversation. This gets significantly harder at parties since there’s tons of crosstalk that tempt my attention from alllllll directions which does burn me out faaaast.

          I know some people say use lists, and I think it depends on the context. I just talk at my watch to add things to a grocery list on my phone and it helps keep me organized when I go. I do the same for vacation packing so that I add to a list as things spontaneously occur to me over the course of days/weeks.

          On the other hand, an ADHD friend of mine is super allergic to lists and legit will not use one and is dying to leave a store from minutes of entering/forgets what he needs to buy constantly, so sometimes there can be more to a attention deficit problem than just “are ya bad at focusing on this task?”

          In the end, whether it’s working with a therapist, or yourself, trying to have a better understanding of where your struggles are (and successes!!!) will be the best first step at identifying what coping mechanisms work for you.

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            My problem with lists (and anything text honestly): I lile to see identical formatting and structure.
            And if the indentation isnt just right enough it can make me a tad agitated/irritated. Worst case can be if someone talks to me while I am in that mode…

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          Why? They have gotten better and adults who have an actual baseline are way better equiped to make that decision. I don’t know a single ADHD kid in my era with me that liked the meth trip that was perscribed

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            I am 45 and take 60mg of lisdexamfetamine every morning just to give me a baseline level of concentration to help me almost achieve as much as someone without ADHD. I have not “gotten better” and nor will I. The meds are not a cure, they’re essentially glasses for my concentration.

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            I don’t know a single ADHD kid in my era with me that liked the meth trip that was perscribed

            Your anecdata fails against the science. At best, perhaps the ones you knew were the ones for whom it was not working and you just didn’t see the ones for whom it did.

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    It has been

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    Days since the Internet forgot that profound autism exists.

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      It’s weird because terminally online people forget that profound autism exists but most irl people I talk to have no concept of autism besides profound autism.

      Otoh, I think most people irl and online think of ADHD as quirky distracted ball of energy meanwhile severe ADHD is not actually seen as a disability but a personal failing or mistaken for the classic depression+anxiety combo.

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        this is why I still like “autism” as a term referring to severe / profound autism, and using a term still like Aspergers for those with high-functioning / mild autism (and maybe even including “broad autism phenotype”)

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        Absolutely! I think this disconnect is such a big part on why conversations about diagnosis rates, prevention, and treatment break down.

        I honestly believe the dsm5 should have kept Asperger’s as a separate diagnosis than pooling all ASD together.

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          I think that’s a fairly common sentiment. The severity of symptoms is a significant decider in how disordered someone is, and having clean deliniations makes sure that people with less disordered lives are not taking attenion awwy from the needs of those with more disordered lives.

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            But they do have clean deliniations. Aspergers is lvl 1 autism. I assume the reason for the change was to increase insurance recognition more than anything. Which is plenty sad on it’s own.

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    Holy fuck this is fucked lol.

    Y’all forgot real fucking 10 of 10 on the spectrum with adult violent outbursts and literally chaining down folks autism exists?

    This whole, your grandfather has trains and was autistic hurr hurr is terrible and just making people more ignorant to challenges people face.

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        It’s a spectrum from "Weird and Awkward all the time but outwardly living a pretty normal life to SCREAMING AT EVERYTHING AND BRING UNABLE TO COMPREHEND ANYTHING AROUND YOU.

        When people think of autism now they don’t think of the “non-functioning” side, they think of the high functioning side. Yes, high-functioning Autism sucks still, but it could be much, much worse.

        ADHD rarely makes anyone “non-functional” it does make people barely-functional. Thus, no one cares. As you’re doing “okay” usually.

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    Because the fascists needed a few scapegoats and they chose immigrants, trans, and autism.

    I think ADHD was skipped because it’s harder to say, and don’t fit into their fiery speeches.

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      Autism got rolled in because the child abuser, disbarred doctor, scam artist, and fraudulent researcher Andrew Wakefield claimed vaccines caused autism and just about the entire Anglophone mainstream media spent years framing it as a dramatic story of a defiant doctor speaking out against the tyrannical scientific community. Often accompanied by videos of autistic children being overstimulated by the presence of a camera crew and being made to melt down for the camera the tragic horror of having to raise an autistic child.

      This massively boosted antivax conspiracist subculture to the point of it being a significant electoral demographic. Billionaires then paid grifters to align them with greater alt-right conspiracism culture so they would vote far-right. Autism naturally slots into the untermensch role, with vaccination being analogized to blood libel.

      So ADHD wasn’t skipped, fascists just didn’t have an ADHD-hating subculture to court.

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      I think ADHD is often seen as annoying kids and not taken seriously while autism is viewed as otherworldly and caused by vaccines. There are no conspiracy theories where ADHD comes from, just that it’s diagnosed too often

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    Because 50% of Americans are either really fucking stupid or assholes, or both. That’s literally the only reason.

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      Correct. It really must be an american thing. The rest of the world mostly takes both divergences seriously. But we also don’t get measles, so that’s that 😁

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    The worst part of it is that there are no visual cues to any of it at all. So because you look happen to normal, you’re expected to BE normal.

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      There’s a few if they know what to look for. Every once in a while when I’m in the zone at work, I’ll notice my fingers playing the piano (“stimming”) and hide them in my pockets.

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        Yup, if you know exactly what to look for it can be pretty obvious, but that only really works if you are in the spectrum yourself or have extensive contact with someone that is.