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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlM to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.mlEnglish ·
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Turns out that the US is unable to produce enough missiles for Ukraine and a war with Iran

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Turns out that the US is unable to produce enough missiles for Ukraine and a war with Iran

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlM to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.mlEnglish ·
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What happens when we give Europe first dibs on US missiles for war
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Expert: We are selling more defensive missiles to NATO allies for Ukraine, but our own stockpiles are taking a back seat. Is this why no Iran attack?
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  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
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    Great time for someone to invade the US. Please, the people of Minnesota yearn for freedom from this authoritarian regime

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    something something paper tiger?

    though they have been moving quite a lot of military equipment around lately.

    i’d bet they want to strike soon anyway, and drop ukraine/europe if they need to like the bureaucrats have been threatening.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      Yup, I think this is why they’ve been so desperate to negotiate with Russia and find some off ramp I’m Ukraine.

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        it’s had to discern what’s happening because people like sachs say the military industrial complex is try to keep the war going, but others agree w your statement.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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          I’d argue both of these things are true. The people making profit off the war want to keep making money, and people who want to consolidate resources for strategic purposes like destroying Iran want to end it. You have to keep in mind that the US is not a hivemind with a common purpose. There are many different groups all pulling things in different directions based on their own interests.

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            There are many different groups all pulling things in different directions based on their own interests.

            the latest batch of epstein files confirms that there are other groups out there and we can infer that they don’t always align.

            you’re ahead of the curve. lol

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        The US wants to go to war in Iran on behalf of Israel. Everything is secondary to that.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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          That seems to be the dominant faction in the US right now for sure.

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            More like the last 50 years

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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              True, they’ve dreamt of invading Iran since their regime there was overthrown.

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    Capitalism is a national security threat

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      the system eats itself

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    By the way what a hilarious picture of an junkie and a warmonger.

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    Good

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    Well they’re moving a lot of Ukraine weapons making to Europe. Denmark for example. The metropoly may be struggling, but it’s still an empire

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      if you look at the tangible numbers, there’s barely anything actually being produced in Europe

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        Do you by chance have data on this?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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          There’s no single report summing this up, but here are a few article discussing European dependence on US arms exports

          • https://www.vaticannews.va/en/world/news/2025-03/arms-imports-soaring-in-europe-sipri-think-tank-says.html
          • https://en.hespress.com/105384-report-european-militaries-reach-60-reliance-on-us-weapons.html?print
          • https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/europes-dependence-on-us-arms-rose-in-last-five-years-says-report/article69311997.ece
          • https://www.sipri.org/media/press-release/2025/sipri-top-100-arms-producers-see-combined-revenues-surge-states-rush-modernize-and-expand-arsenals

          The problem that Europe has is lack of access to cheap energy. They’re now pretty entirely reliant on expensive LNG from the US, and industries things steel production, essential to the military, are incredibly expensive as a result.

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    This is all good news. Love that Trump can’t prevent aid to Ukraine yet.

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      libs just love to see more people die

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        Libs really do want to fight to the last Ukrainian

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        are you one of those tankies that thinks Putin is a communist? genuinely curious about your delusion

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          The only people who think Putin is a communist are clueless liberals

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          why would I think that Putin is a communist, only people who even bring this idiocy up are deranged libs

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          No “tankie” thinks Putin is a communist, far more liberals think Putin is secretly a communist than communists think so, both by ratio and total.

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          Nobody here thinks Putin is a communist, he’s a capitalist bastard, but he is the lesser evil opposing the even bigger imperialist entity known as NATO.

          How is it “good news” that the Ukrainian war will keep being supplied and enable people to keep dying pointlessly for a long time yet?

          The only real '“good” development here would be one that sees immediate and serious peace negotiations; instead of throwing Ukrainians into a blender for the sake of global posturing while shouting “Putler”.

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            LOL I don’t see NATO wading into Ukraine wanting to torture and kill people.

            Russian peace means russian torture chambers and mobile crematoriums for Ukranian opposition. Followed by generations of autocracy. If that isn’t worth fighting then nothing is.

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              Literally described what the fascist regime in Ukraine is currently doing there.

              https://www.mintpressnews.com/volodymyr-zelensky-secret-police-hunted-down-opposition-anatoly-shariy/280200/

              https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/24/ukraine-unguided-rockets-killing-civilians

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              I don’t see NATO wading into Ukraine wanting to torture and kill people.

              NATO waded into Afghanistan and Iraq and killed two million civilians. NATO is funding and participating in an ongoing genocide. They’ve killed many, many more. Guantanamo Bay is an illegal torture facility, there are undoubtedly hundreds more we haven’t heard of. The downfall of its hegemony would see the lives of millions of people saved globally.

              Russian peace means russian torture chambers and mobile crematoriums for Ukranian opposition. Followed by generations of autocracy.

              What makes you say that? You must understand that’s a cartoonishly unreal accusation, right? Yeah, Russian democracy sucks, but not meaningfully moreso than Ukrainian or most Western democracies.

              Fighting for the re-conquering and oppression of the eastern half of Ukraine (i.e. DPR and LPR), oppressing Russophones and continuing to explicitly deny the regions a right to self-determination. Zelenskyy already admitted they would not vote to stay part of Ukraine given the chance. That will not be a happy outcome for a lot of people either.

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                Not denying the role of NATO member states in the conflicts you mention, and the existence of Guantanamo is wrong.

                But, mobile crematoriums and the russian police to feed them were in the first wave of invaders headed for Kyiv in 2022. Torture chambers are well documented.

                Elections under the russian boot are neither free nor fair for obvious reasons. Western democracies aren’t great and especially not the US lately, but there are a lot fewer people flying out of windows for political reasons.

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                  And fighting to the last Ukrainian helps… How exactly?

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                  The IWPR is based in Washington D.C., the U.K., and the Netherlands, and seems to be especially concerned about manufacturing consent for backing the Banderite regime in Kiev, and supporting the ovethrow of socialism and Chavismo in Venezuela.

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                  I appreciate we can agree on the NATO wrongdoings, that’s cool, thank you.

                  I’m not saying Russia never tortured or cremated anybody. Every party to this conflict has done that in the droves. But it’s disingenuous to imply that peace under Russia means exceptional mass torture and death squads. “Peace” before Russia invaded was 8 years of civil war where Ukraine killed its own civilians with artillery every day.

                  Elections under the Ukrainian boot are no good either. Democratic parties were (and are) frequently made illegal on spurious grounds, corruption is rife, heck, the elected president got ruddy coup’d not that long ago. We certainly hear of more publicised political killings in Russia than in the west, what the truth is I don’t know, but I think the chasm in difference of democratic ‘quality’ is a lot less than we care to tell ourselves.

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              that might have been close to what nato wanted when they stationed in ukraine to pressure russia.

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                Ukraine wants to join NATO, but does not want to join russia world. Gee I wonder why? Is big mystery, da?

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                  not really a mystery, no.

                  ukraine got a puppet dictator installed so they would be cannon fodder for the empire to try and weaken russia.

                  since, you know, they have been justifiably hesitant to die needlessly for the empire for the prior decade.

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          Nobody who understands communism thinks Putin is a communist

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            Meanwhile people who don’t understand communism believe communists think Putin is a communist lol

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            so why support his invasion of Ukraine

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              This is what someone who thinks this “unprovoked” war started in 2022 might ask.

              Previously:

              • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
              • Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
              • Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
              • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
              • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
              • Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
              • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
              • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
              • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
              • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
              • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
              • openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
              • Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
              • Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
              • Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
              • Internationalist 360°, 2022–2024: History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
              • NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide

              Previously:

              NATO expansion:

              • George Washington Univ., 2017: NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner
              • Orinoco Tribune, 2022: Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
              • Al Mayadeen, 2023: Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
              • Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
              • Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: NATO Chief Admits NATO Expansion Was Key to Russian Invasion of Ukraine

               
              NATO in general:

              • The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
              • CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
              • Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world”
              • Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism
              • Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
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                yay a whole pile of links. got to work so can’t read all these now.

                re neo nazis existing in Ukraine, I don’t doubt it. But also there are neo nazis in russia, the US, germany, just about anywhere.

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                  The difference is that nazis in Ukraine are literally the ruling party in the government and in control of the military with elite openly fascist battalions like Azov. Last I checked this isn’t the case in Russia, but certainly is becoming openly the case in the US. Hence I guess why western fascists feel such deep kinship with the Ukrainian ones. Y’all have shared values.

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              Most communists support the secessionists in Donetsk and Luhansk, that have been fighting the Banderite regime in Kiev since 2014, when their democratically elected president was ousted in a western-backed, far-right coup. The Russian Federation is aiding the secessionists, and destroying NATO equipment and resources that otherwise are used to threaten the global south into bending the knee to western imperialism.

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          This is not soccer that you need to cheer for your team, your point makes no sense.

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            admittedly a shitpost comment, in reply to another shitpost comment. why don’t you ask the previous commenter the same question?

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          Are you one of those liberal fascists who thinks Ukraine isn’t run by seig-heiling nazis? Genuinely curious about your delusion

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