Waking up every day and drinking that Hatorade.

If you don’t like anything on the the platform, why stick around?

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    Sometimes I miss old forums where content was brought back up by simply posting within the topic (though that lead to the annoying and incessant “bump? bump? bump?” posts on threads people wouldn’t let die, i guess).

    Post voting is understandable as an alternative but it just leads to so much vanity as a result. Sites like this and reddit have so many dorks that are like “my fake internet points… how could you”. If it matters that much to you just shitpost all the time and you’ll get those numbers up

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      question about something specific (3w ago)


      nvm figured it out (3w ago)

      what was the solution? Im having the same issue (5m ago)

      [MOD] necroing resolved topics is against the TOS. Read the rules before posting. Banned 4 lyf sunnnnn (1m ago)

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    Are there any instances where votes are public? In other words, where it shows on the post or comment who up/down voted? I know there are some, or were, but I don’t know the current status.

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    Ah yes. Penis measuring. But instead of measuring penises we’re measuring something even more arbitrary.

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    I don’t understand this post at all. Why does it matter what someone upvotes or downvotes? The upvote/downvote means literally nothing at all. Personally, even removed the ability to see the upvote/downvote thing on Lemmy with Mlem.

    People place way to much sentiment on the whole up and downvote. That’s why Reddit just became a karmafarming place instead of actual (good) written conversation. Lets not do that with Lemmy. Also, this post could turn out quite bad and gets a unnecessary witch hunt started.

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        I do not know, you tell me? Anyway, it seems my particular comment got some people agitated. Did not expect to see people getting agitated over a single random comment and question.

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          Well if the crowd is booing you, it can mean you’re wrong, or that you’re bad at the thing youre trying to do, or that you’re performing to the wrong audience.

          If the crowd is cheering you, they’re communicating that they like you or that you did good or that youre simply saying what they want to hear.

          In the OPs case, where they’re pressing the down arrow way more than the up arrow, it implies that they’re in the wrong place as an audience. To extend the shitty analogy I started with, if I only love classic music and soft jazz, I’m not going to have a good time in a mosh pit. I should get out of the mosh pit and find a venue that plays classical music, instead of coming back every night and booing.

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      Why do upvotes and downvotes matter? Is this a real question?

      Reddit became the karma farming shithole it is because of their engagement algorithms.

      IMO this post points to a what some believe to be an intentional effort to poison rival platforms to maintain the current monopolies. I think that matters.

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        Why do upvotes and downvotes matter? Is this a real question?

        Yes, it is. Because on Lemmy, the down and upvote does not restrict your account (like how Reddit does it). From my understanding the upvote and downvote on Lemmy is more “upvote, so more users see it and downvote see it gets seen less”.

        Which means if one person is trolling it and downvote but majority of users are upvoting it, it doesn’t matter much.

        Reddit became the karma farming shithole it is because of their engagement algorithms.

        That’s one of the many reasons.

        Also, you don’t sound very friendly and since your account is about 5 days old. I’m very skeptical of your comment and behavior.

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          They affect visibility. Exactly.

          Skeptic away, friend. Your account was also 5 days old at one point, but whatever.

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            They affect visibility. Exactly.

            Skeptic away, friend.

            Glad Lemmy allows infinite blocking users. So welcome to the blocklist, don’t want to see unfriendly and unnecessary behavior from new accounts.

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      In my experience down votes basically exist to justify psychotic power mods being able to block people they don’t like.

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        I assumed that moderators just ban people they do not like or at least remove comments. Blocking people that you do not like is helpful. Keeps your feed and comments section clean and brings less unfriendly behavior. I’m a huge fan of Lemmy’s blocking, it does not prevent the blocked person to comment but it does help the blocker to prevent seeing anything from the blocked person. Brings peace to both, one can simply comment and the other will not see it.

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    People are much more likely to write a complaint letter than a praising one. Same as it ever was but internet version.

    I worked for a company that had a post karma system before reddit ever existed. It was no different then. No matter how much we said that the downvote button is not a dislike button, it changed nothing.

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    Sticking my neck out a bit to share my general views and habits on voting to maybe add some other things to consider.

    My general mindset is that each community sets rules on posts and comments, and that ideally only appropriate things should then be posted. So I typically only think to upvote stuff when there’s an even greater than normal amount of effort or thought put into something, or to counteract dogpile downvotes to an appropriate post/comment.

    Say I’m browsing a motorcycle community and one user posts a meme about bikes, and someone else poses a story about learning to ride; if my preference is for text posts instead of images I could just upvote the story post and not the meme, but both posts are related to the community and belong there. I could upvote both (and by extension all posts) but then what’s the difference if everything is +1 or +0? If memes are disallowed, I can downvote and report the post to push it down to hopefully keep others from having to see it or encourage them to post their own.

    I will also downvote nearly 100% of extremely low-effort pointless comments like “THIS”, “lol”, URL shortened or amp/tracking including links without context etc. A post in another language but marked as English I will also downvote, foreign language communities/instances I just block. I block most meme and shitpost style communities so I’m not looking to vote police what other people enjoy, but doing this stuff in science/news/hobby/etc. communities is inappropriate.

    So that’s generally how I behave on Lemmy (and previously on Reddit) - I’m generally more “on the lookout” for bad content, and not looking to boost things that belong here. I don’t rely on voting to maintain my feed, my block lists are also enormous.

    A more semi-recent phenomenon is accounts spam posting a bunch of (relevant) links and then self-deleting - I can’t block that account to hide their posts, but as I’m scrolling through my feed I will downvote every single post they made regardless of its quality etc. I’m not going to rehash arguments about whether their behavior is acceptable or not (“they are posting relevant stuff, who cares if they’re acting in bad faith!”) but since there’s generally 2-3 of those accounts per day spam posting junk that’s a lot of downvotes from me to a lot of different communities including some I’m not subscribed to. I’m not going to bother reporting every single post, and until there’s a method to easily directly report a user I’m not going to bother trying that anymore.

    Just wanted to put that out there that there might be other legitimate users that have wildly disproportionate voting numbers and that it might not be malicious or careless in nature. I don’t know if Lemmy ignores them like Reddit (supposedly?) does, but I’ve never mass voted from a user’s history. It’s only from comments and posts that were presented to me during my normal browsing.

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    f____g@lemmy.zip?

    I have no idea who that is - your alt?

    Downvoting is valid. You saying it equals hate says more about you than about the downvoters.

    edit: hm, apparently this is about the user doing the downvoting, not being downvoted? Still, this is badly anonymized, and that’s my main point.

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      I have no idea who that is

      I know exactly who this is, even without the username tip-off. Here’s what their record looked like in September:

      I happened across the user when looking into a string of -1’s on brand new posts in a small community. They were all the same person, and that person downvoted 244 times for each upvote.

      This on its own is not normal behavior. Combine it with this user’s comments - which are pretty much completely on brand for the average Lemmy user - and it becomes even more bizarre.

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      My instance of choice decided to unilaterally and without any warning whatsoever disable downvotes. Just to “try it out”.

      I’m still pissed about it to this day.

      I mean that google removes any kind of downvotes is one stupid thing, but that people think this makes content “better” is crazy to me.

      Now I do understand that in small communities the weight of a super negative account can be quite an issue… But is removing completely any negative feedback the solution ? Really, it’s all we got ?

      Also the simple fact that a lot of this community is from Reddit, IMO it’s not okay to disable a feature like that without even voting on it.

      So if you think disabling negative feedback fixes an issue, you have the burden to prove or at least explain the reasoning.

      I do think it didn’t make YouTube any less of a cesspool to disable downvotes on it…

      Edit : Also while votes are not supposed to replace moderation, they certainly help limiting the reach of spammers. Like if the mods are asleep at least the community can bury the post in the meantime. But no, they just disabled downvotes and made a post about the change the same day. Wtf.

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        Personally being on an instance with no down votes I was pretty similar in thinking. Over time though I’ve realized downvotes are just another avenue for anger, there’s no need for them. It removes significant amounts of stress not worrying about it.

        Were here to discuss, chat, and learn new and intriguing things. Up and Down votes don’t matter, block that annoying asshole, tag the contrarian, just worry about yourself and the typical woes of social media subside considerably.

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          Yeah thats what I was going to say too. There’s little keeping you on any specific instance. You don’t have “karma totals” like on reddit.

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      Nothing against downvoting in general, but some people are extremely toxic about it. I don’t get the point.

      Please don’t do a witch hunt - it was censored for a reason. Sorry I didn’t do it thoroughly enough.

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        Please don’t do a witch hunt - it was censored for a reason. Sorry I didn’t do it thoroughly enough.

        I’m not. But if this post should evolve into one, that’s on you. Do the sensible thing and remove it.

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      i concur (approved your p.of.view)
      I like Lemmy(*)s, and like to ↑ good stuff and to ↓ at very bad stuff. Yes, of course, there is so much of both in here. And since we have many communities, it is possible for opposite points of view to float upward. Until we have a better system, let’s use what we have.

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    This is the upvotes/downvotes they did on other people’s stuff, or others did on their stuff?