• 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.de
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    6 hours ago

    To answer this question correctly we need to use my favorite super power: pedantry. The meme suggest the rules of who wants to be a millionaire are in play, but that is not expressly stated. Furthermore we’re going to ignore our societal training at recognizing multiple choice questions because, again, we’re not given instructions.

    With these powers combined, the question is ambiguous as it doesn’t specify the set from which we are choosing. Using the 4 options below the question is an assumption. Therefore we have to conclude that we’re choosing from an infinite set of options, every possible decimal value from 0 to 100.

    The answer is an extremely small percentage, approaching zero.

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    9 hours ago

    All right, let’s break this down.

    For this question, for these available answers, choosing at random:

    First glance says the correct percentage is 25%. There are four answers, you get to pick one.

    However, two of the answers are 25%. This means you have a 50% chance of picking an answer that’s right.

    Which makes the correct answer C: 50%.

    But there’s only one answer that’s “50%”, so you have a 25% chance of picking that one.

    Which makes the correct answer “25%”, so you have a 50% chance of picking that one.

    If we consider that “two answer” equation, we can then consider the correct percentage to be “37.5%” – halfway between 25% and 50%. That makes the correct answer from the available answers to be B: 0%.

    And you have a 25% chance of picking that one at random. So we go back to the beginning, where the correct percentage is 25%.

    I think we need to get Matt Parker on this one.

    • TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip
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      7 hours ago

      There is simply no solution. If you choose an answer as “correct” it is shown to be not correct, (not a 25% chance to choose 25%, not a 50% chance to choose 50%, not a 0% chance to choose 0%) showing there is no correct answer.

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      9 hours ago

      They don’t say that the random answer is chosen uniformly (though that is the norm in the field). If we relax that, then we’re putting a distribution on these where we want:

      P(correct with distribution (a,b,c,d)) = some value shown on A,B,C,D

      I don’t see any assumption that we will pick using that distribution, so I think this avoids the recursion.

      Unfortunately this has too many solutions. If you put a total of 0.25 weight on A and D, then the rest does not matter. If you put 0.5 weight on C, again the rest is irrelevant.

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        8 hours ago

        You’ve added details that aren’t in the question. It’s like asking what are the odds of rolling a “one” on a 1d4, and then saying “Well, if it’s not a fair 1d4, then …”

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          8 hours ago

          … I… I literally talked about this. It’s the first words.

          They don’t say that the random answer is chosen uniformly (though that is the norm in the field). If we relax that,…

          What more was needed?

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            7 hours ago

            If we relax that, …

            The question is as posed. We have no indication that we should assume a different distribution of “random”.

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              7 hours ago

              My favorite indication that someone is using a word in an unusual way is that their question has no answer if you interpret it as usual. I reply to you because you argued very nicely that, if this makes sense at all, it must be with a different use of language than we expect.

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      8 hours ago

      There’s also, I think, the weird fucky option were 75% sorta works because the 25% applies to choosing 50% and 50% applies to choosing 25% which means that as long as you don’t choose 0% you’re good?

      BUT ALSO, none of the question says it’s talking about itself. It could just mean in general, so we can choose 25% on purpose and then glare at whoever made A and D the same.

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    7 hours ago

    According to my mathematician wife, “it’s got the same problem most paradoxes do in that it’s self-referential”.

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      9 hours ago

      If it isn’t for this question, then its unknown how many options you have for the question.

      • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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        7 hours ago

        As you say, the question presented to Fry doesn’t mention a question at all. Only an answer. So, you could make an argument that any answer could be the answer to something, and therefore you’d have to choose a 100% chance, which isn’t an option.

        On the other hand, it asks for the chance of “picking the correct one”, clearly meaning “the correct answer”. So, as there is no answer that is the correct answer to everything, the correct choice would be 0%, which is an option.

  • Aedis@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    It’s 50/50 either you get it right or you don’t duh.

    /s in case someone didn’t realize it

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    8 hours ago

    Simpler version that fits comfier in my head:

    What’s the opposite of the correct answer to this question?

    • A) There’s no correct answer
    • B) There is a correct answer