Rare and pretty much always committed by the GOP. Fuckin’ nasty fucks.

We’re also the best marathon runners, as a species.

Sure thing, my dude. I do hope you guys one day get personalities based on what you like instead of what you hate. You’ll be happier and I’d love that for you.

Ok? That’s the outside of the phone, and frankly all the other options also look the same just more plasticky. It’s called being recognizable.

Man, you say that like it’s some old, now obscure film.

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It’s like, at some point, horror is horror and we know that we’ve seen or imagined in some way the potential of bad stuff that would mess with us. We know the feeling of helplessness to enough of a degree to dampen the effect, too. I’m sure it would be awful, the visions from an eldritch horror, but I doubt it would have the same effect as it would on the people who had barely the imagination to picture science fiction as any further along than still using propellers to creat lift.

It’s the difference between introducing a whole new hell and showing something we’ve seen before just way worse. And it makes me wonder if there’s something we’ve missed with our greatly expanded collective imagination and if our allowances for the unknown have limits we can’t see yet.

Turns out what you wanted was financial stability and to not feel like you’d end up on the street. That doesn’t cancel out what should be a very basic expectation of baseline respect from employers and fair pay, though, so here we all are rightly pissed-off.

I like to say “everyone’s had a childhood.” It might not have been a good childhood but no one just phases into existence as a full grown adult, not even the dumbass who cut you off and may as well have been born yesterday.

You can’t genuinely believe that that’s an argument for why mine has been “defeated”?

It took my two seconds to verify that Linus Torvald did his work with Linux on his own time and at university, not in the pursuit of capital. Since his childhood he has simply found joy in computers and does these things because he genuinely wants to. He worked at Transmeta for six years afterwards and then left to go work for one of the non-profits that eventually became the non-profit Linux Foundation. His whole fucking shtick is that the software should be open-source.

He’s also from Finland, a country well know to prioritize its citizens’ well-being. That care allows citizens to pursue their goals with a level of safety that capitalism cannot offer.

You’re either a weird, pathetic troll and/or unfathomably stupid. Either way this conversation isn’t going to get us anywhere.

Yea we can still innovate without capitalism, though, and even in spite of it people still develope things just for the fun of it. They even create non-profits designed around making things accessible and writing standards to help keep everyone organized. Fuck, Linux distros are free, dude. Literally this post points out that the people working on the software and the design are also of the working class and you’ve glossed over that.

Capitalism is the system which puts capital first. It a system whereby having money is having power and not having money is a death sentence. It is a system that that says equates your current monetary value with your value to society and which suppresses anything that cannot be monetized. So many people can’t even have hobbies anymore without some feeling of guilt and weird conservatives won’t stop shitting on the arts like they’re so broken as people they no longer understand the concept of enjoyment or living for more than just producing stock value.

Under a system that focuses on making sure people are cared for you can still have private business. A system which has safety nets and offers free education, healthcare, and basic utilities is one in which the ordinary person is free to live their life instead of worrying about losing their job and their employment-connected health insurance.

You’re not playing devil’s advocate by ignoring important details, you’re just being weird and wrong. Also no one fucking asked, anyway.

It literally is. The idea I’ve seen around is that these things couldn’t be built without someone getting the short end of the stick. They also believe that no one would innovate without a profit motive. These people genuinely believe that the only other option is flipping entirely over to that garbage attempt the soviets made at communism. They fundamentally cannot comprehend the idea of nuance and so “capitalism is the only idea that works”.

We know that CEO wages are insane and that the reason we can’t afford stuff is our stagnant pay. We know that people innovate for their own curiousity all the time. We know that capitalism actually hates innovation because it means retooling and spending money on R&D and we’ve seen it fight progress basically at every turn or watched it buy up competition so it wouldn’t have to any real work.

So yea, you’re right.

Applecare is still around so you’re wrong already.

Look, Apple’s done some shitty stuff and as an iPhone and MacBook owner I won’t deny it. Every company right now is desperately trying to find ways to charge more for less because there aren’t really any corners left to cut for capitalism to pump stock numbers up but infinite growth is still making its usual demands.

Apple products are still way more robust than the competition and they’re way ahead on things like ARM and making OSs that aren’t complete trash(Windows is a worthless piece of shit and always has been, even at its best. I own and regularly use a self-built gaming PC, so I experience it all the time). I’ll buy their products because their shit actually works and can be relied on. Plus I was able to finance my laptop at 0% and honestly the price I paid for my 14” MacBook Pro was comparable to what I would have paid for the same tier back in 2010 when I got my first MacBook so honestly, with inflation and all, it was surprisingly affordable(it was still really expensive, I won’t lie).

Anyhow it kinda sounds like you don’y have much experience with these products or haven’t learned from your experiences with them and just want to ride that bandwagon. Look into the awful shit Samsung has been doing or how expensive some of the other Android options are and you’ll see that this goes way beyond your specific hate of “the evil fruit company”. Capitalism is just rotten everywhere.

It’s weird how much it fits. I’m glad they did shoe-horn it in because my very first thought was about how conservatives keep yammering on and on about how x, y, or z doesn’t work while doing everything in their power to make sure that it’s as broken and half-assed as possible. All they do is moan about things they broke not working and the only solutions they ever come up with are the ones that don’t require them to think.

It’s easy to throw something broken in the garbage and it takes curiosity and skill to diagnose and fix the thing. Why learn, understand, and better your life when you can throw a tantrum instead?

Yup yup yup. The people who’ve literally been shocked that I’m not judging them break my fucking heart.

“How ya doing?”

“Good.”

“…”

“Bro come on we’re literally friends already are you seriously not excited about anything that happened in the last two weeks?”

When we’re all told that “proper” is not talking about ourselves we end up with needlessly boring conversations and the inverse idea that someone excited about something is being improper. Keep an eye on how much space you’re taking up, leave openings for people to jump in, but yap if ya gotta yap.

Preface: I agree with you but want to add a counter to explain why people might be uncomfortable following your advice.

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We should admit that there are people who have decided that there are “wrong” answers and that those people have soured the experience enough that there’s a whole branching group of people afraid enough of them to instictually perpetuate the same nonsense. It’s not about “I don’t know what I should say” but about “I don’t know what I’m allowed to say that will avoid some form of behind-the-back punishment.”

There are also some people I know who where a mask thicker than their own skin and I know for a fact that they do it because of trauma. They refuse to hold strong opinions and when they do you have to be incredibly delicate with them because sharing an opinion means something entirely different to them. If you share an opinion then to them you wouldn’t unless you were really mad or really had no respect for the alternatives. My ex-girlfriend literally couldn’t handle me saying “no yea…” because the “no” was negative and it was her, by her own admission, traumatized parents who made her that way. I’ve still tried to soften myself since but oh my god.

I’m polite, your typical conservative would probably call me woke, and people call me up when they’re feeling sad because they trust me. When I say “opinion” I don’t mean insane crap like trying to say that homophobia or sexism is “just my opinion, bro” but like literally even just giving polite, requested feedback after a course or something. I swear giving a 4/5 review is the end of the world to these people because any negativity is percieved as a death sentence(and it kinda is, thanks capitalism). “I really liked most of X but think this part could be streamlined” is translated by them to “I hate you deeply and am just trying to soften the blow to appear proper”.

Which is what the original poster said, the amount of money is the issue. And boy is it, there’s nothing quite as depressing as going to work every single day and wondering why you even bother. Makes ya reeeeeal productive, too, being distracted and unmotivated.

Real men link up to the hive mind.

Let’s not forget that they probably don’t listen to much non-commercialized country and when they do the highly left-wing, union supporting, feelings having message probably goes right over their heads. I mean it has to, they’d necessarily throw a fit if they knew what they were listening to.

Oh yea for sure, that I’m behind 100%. “Strategic voting” is just silencing your one chance to have a real voice based on whoever’s PR team is doing better.