I still use gmail and drive for work but otherwise I’m never logged into anything google at home. Today when I tried to expand on a restaurant’s hours it wouldn’t let me see them without logging in, although it still worked in incognito. This restaurant screenshot is just a random other example I tried, but for the one I was actually checking google had the correct hours while the official website hasn’t been updated in awhile and had the old ones (website said they’re still open for dinner but they’ve only been doing lunch for a year or so now)
I really just need to get off google entirely but I’m also very unmotivated/lazy/ADHD, and the common alternative FOSS maps just don’t provide the same level of detail, especially in non-US or English speaking countries.
Depends on where you live, in the EU, openstreetmap.org is way more accurate than Google.
And you can make a new hobby for yourself by updating things as you come across them
have a look at streetcomplete, it turns the updates into a game
But there is nothing to update. They already did it all
Then I guess OP doesn’t have any excuses. Or I guess you can use it as an excuse to see new places so you can map them, too.
Haha I wish
Really depends on location, because it’s dependent on how people in an area act. If they’re plugging things into it, then it can have a ton of data.
thats cool, just know youre part of the problem, not the solution.
your reasoning for not leaving is exactly what they want to hear.
If the problem is a lack of suitable alternatives, that’s not the user’s fault. Google even snapped up Waze.
They need to use something. You suggesting they should just go make their own Google Maps?
and Waze is still Israeli spyware.
And owned by google to boot, no?
They don’t need to, since OpenStreetMap already exists.
They just need to do their part by contributing to it.
No matter how much I contribute, OSM is so far behind google they’re not even comparable in any way.
And yes, I do use OSM/CoMaps/Magic Earth/Organic. And I contribute.
Acting as if it’s the user’s fault these don’t compete with Google is just blaming the user.
In cases like this blame and fault are almost irrelevant, what is relevant is what do your actions lead to. I’m not arguing an individual can do everything when it comes to things like this, we as individuals have to pick our battles - but the people who choose not to fight any battle at all and stay with the status quo should understand they are part of the reason the status quo is maintained and are part of the reason enshittification is happening.
It’s good that you understand not everybody can do what you do, but we shouldn’t be giving everyone free passes and allow them to believe they have zero accountability.
Why is it a map’s responsibility to list restaurant hours?
The OP even said the restaurant has their own website where they list their hours. I’m fine with leaving it at that, personally.
So you’re part of the problem or… have no access to information. Do you realize how much more data Google has in some places? I contribute to osm every now and then but still use Google maps for navigation, it’s not even comparable.