• homes@piefed.world
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    3 days ago

    Dishwasher? My parents had one. As an adult living on my own, even with roommates, I’ve never lived in a home with one. I’ve never had enough dishes to necessitate one. I don’t think I’ve even seen one in decades.

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        2 days ago

        Well, I do, but I wash as I cook. So, by the time my food is done, I have nothing left to do but eat.

        I find it to be very convenient, and a better use of cooking time than staring at my phone

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              2 days ago

              A dishwasher generally use less water than running dishes under the tap.

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                But it does use more electricity. And if you are alone you’re either waiting a week to wash dishes or doing more loads that aren’t full.

                IMO in wetter areas where water use isn’t a problem you’re better off saving the energy and letting the water run in the sink. If water use is an issue it may be worth it to do at least a prewash/soak in a filled sink then do a faster running rinse in the second sink, or a filled rinse with a mild anti bacterial agent if you’re cool with that.

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                How? Washing dishes under the tap uses exactly 0 electricity. How does using a dishwasher use less electricity than that?

                I like to hear your explanation for that

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                  They said water not electricity. And unless you’re using cold water it takes electricity to heat water usually.

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                    Right, because the water just moves on its own because you ask it nicely.

                    And no dishwasher ever used hot water 🙄

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              The amount of water used for the first item would be enough to clean all of them, but your method requires fresh rinse water for each, even if you have a sinkful of suds sitting (and getting cold) while you work.

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                That sounds like a terribly inefficient way to wash. That’s not how I wash my dishes.

                Clearly, your mother didn’t teach you how to wash up. Or, she didn’t teach you how to wash up very well. Shame on you both. and I’m a goddamn American, and even I know better.

                Ew

                And Shame. Shame on you.

                And how fucking dare you try to blame anyone other than yourself

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                  I clean up as I cook by loading the cooking items in the dishwasher, arranged to leave places for the serving and eating dishes, which get added immediately after use throughout the day. No rinsing, just scraping. Last thing at night, when I’ve fed the cat and put her used bowl in, I start the dishwasher. It washes and rinses and sanitizes the whole day’s dishes in 3 gallons of water, or about 1½ minutes worth of running my California Water Saver kitchen tap. For a standard unrestricted tap it’s less than a minute. Even a highly efficient hand-washer like yourself will have trouble beating that.

                  I’m sorry that this topic is getting you so upset. And I’m not saying you ought to change how you do your dishes. It’s likely that in your area there isn’t a constant threat of drought, and your electricity may not come from solar and wind, so the ecological tradeoff works the other way. Plus your method brings you joy, which is worth a lot more than the opinions of a few random people on the internet.

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      this is fucking baffling to me because EVERYONE here has a dishwasher and has had one for at least… two generations now…
      The only places that don’t have one is tiny apartments where it would occupy half the kitchen.

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        Before I decided to move into my current place I had a moment where I noticed the listing page said the place didn’t have a dishwasher and I didn’t remember seeing one specifically when viewing the place, so I texted the property manager. His response: “yes, it has a dishwasher, that was just an oversight. All modern properties have a dishwasher.” Not sure if he said that because of laws in this state or what but it basically reflects my experience also. I’ve very rarely even seen a home without a dishwasher, it’s been years since I saw one.

        So I agree with you. This guy is quite weird…

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        Where is the “here” to which you’re referring? I have lived in the United States for the last 47 years (since my birth), and I have lived in six different states (UT, CO, MN, NY, NH, FL). In each of these, I have occupied apartments and houses that had at least 3 to 6 bedrooms.

        So I’m really not sure what you’re talking about.

        What I understand the least is your hostility

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          I’ve lived in over 20 apartments in 4 different US states. Only one of them did not have a dishwasher and that was over 20 years ago. It’s been exceedingly rare that I even saw a place without one. So yeah your comments and anger about this are strange.

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            It’s so strange that someone would tell such a fantastical lie. Also strange that someone would feel the need to compete in such an odd way.

            I’m gonna block you. You certainly have nothing of value to add to any conversation. Nobody likes a shit stirrer.

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              Yeah I agree it’s bizarre that someone would tell the lie that they’ve lived for decades without having a dishwasher and on top of that, pretend it’s totally normal.

              Also thanks for blocking me! Will be nice not to hear from you moving forward!

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                i checked their post history and they reference being drunk while commenting previously, so i can only assume they went on one hell of a bender and fixated on dishwashers while struggling with some sort of trauma…