• Seppo@sopuli.xyz
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        A dishwasher generally use less water than running dishes under the tap.

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          But it does use more electricity. And if you are alone you’re either waiting a week to wash dishes or doing more loads that aren’t full.

          IMO in wetter areas where water use isn’t a problem you’re better off saving the energy and letting the water run in the sink. If water use is an issue it may be worth it to do at least a prewash/soak in a filled sink then do a faster running rinse in the second sink, or a filled rinse with a mild anti bacterial agent if you’re cool with that.

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          How? Washing dishes under the tap uses exactly 0 electricity. How does using a dishwasher use less electricity than that?

          I like to hear your explanation for that

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            They said water not electricity. And unless you’re using cold water it takes electricity to heat water usually.

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              Right, because the water just moves on its own because you ask it nicely.

              And no dishwasher ever used hot water 🙄

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                Dishwashers generally use cold water hand heats it to the required temperature inside the machine for the cleaning cycle, then uses cold water for rinse cycle. Imagine it like washing 15+ plates and cutlery under the tap, but at the same time. A fully loaded dishwasher will always be more efficient than doing the same amount of dishes manually.

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        The amount of water used for the first item would be enough to clean all of them, but your method requires fresh rinse water for each, even if you have a sinkful of suds sitting (and getting cold) while you work.

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          That sounds like a terribly inefficient way to wash. That’s not how I wash my dishes.

          Clearly, your mother didn’t teach you how to wash up. Or, she didn’t teach you how to wash up very well. Shame on you both. and I’m a goddamn American, and even I know better.

          Ew

          And Shame. Shame on you.

          And how fucking dare you try to blame anyone other than yourself

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            I clean up as I cook by loading the cooking items in the dishwasher, arranged to leave places for the serving and eating dishes, which get added immediately after use throughout the day. No rinsing, just scraping. Last thing at night, when I’ve fed the cat and put her used bowl in, I start the dishwasher. It washes and rinses and sanitizes the whole day’s dishes in 3 gallons of water, or about 1½ minutes worth of running my California Water Saver kitchen tap. For a standard unrestricted tap it’s less than a minute. Even a highly efficient hand-washer like yourself will have trouble beating that.

            I’m sorry that this topic is getting you so upset. And I’m not saying you ought to change how you do your dishes. It’s likely that in your area there isn’t a constant threat of drought, and your electricity may not come from solar and wind, so the ecological tradeoff works the other way. Plus your method brings you joy, which is worth a lot more than the opinions of a few random people on the internet.

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                I’m going to post this as a separate comment so you don’t miss it. I’m not the person who implied you didn’t know about dishwashers.

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                  That your delusion has caused you to hallucinate my “froth“…

                  Why do people do this? Hallucinate things about me like this…

                  What else do you hallucinate about me? your delusion has caused you to hallucinate my “froth”, what else have you hallucinated about me I must wonder…

                  What other “froths” do hallucinate about other random people in other countries? They must, certainly, be quite fascinating!

                  Wherever you are, I suggest you get a television. your imagination is that of a Soviet toilet.