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You guys, energy, frequency and vibration are all obviously fake. Nobody has ever observed vibration in real life. Go on and try measuring one of those “frequencies”, I’ll wait. Where are you even supposed to find those? “A faucet dripping”? “Your literal heartbeat”? Don’t make me laugh!
Big Stillness doesn’t want you to know.
Tuning forks are big fake
have you tried to find a tuning fork lately? they’re little fake now. i just got an application across my desk asking for a grant for money to put tuning forks in weird places because there’s not enough woo and i’m gonna reject it because it’s a good idea and i want to do it.
Big Tuning Fork are lying to us!
Some of them are also small fake
Heard some conspiracy folks mention negative frequencies from 5G and the like. It’s just a phase I guess…
I have to charge my phone. What is your wifi password?
You can map out the inside of a building and figure out where objects are, and when and where movement occurs, with WiFi.
You cannot do this with magic woo woo nonsense that equivocates and conflates terms across different domain specific meanings, and then attempts to build a world view out of confused, meaningless/contradictory gibberish.
I can’t say I tune with your vibes, but I am grooving to your aura.
Must be a Pisces. Classic Pisces vibes lol
fuck. pisceses always make me want sushi.
Some of the more storied and out there reports of what happened with the remote viewing program in the 80s and 90s pretty much get close to this.
Tech lets people play games with their thoughts
https://www.futurity.org/brain-computer-interface-games-3200662-2/
I absolutely believe in energy, frequency, and vibration. My wifi vibrates at a frequency of 2.4 and 5 GHz and in order to do that it needs to use energy.
Like, I’m down with hippie woo energy work, it’s really useful meditation. I use it to keep my anxiety under control. But your religion can’t cure diseases, it can only provide comfort
That’s how I feel about astrology. A horoscope is just a prompt for self reflection. But it’s fun when something feels woo woo or predictive or relatable because… its fun, idk. Its spooOoOoOoKy, it’s fun, it’s cute. Star charts are a skill you have to learn, it’s a hobby, it makes your brain work.
yup. i like tarot. it gives me a prompt from which to examine my own thoughts.
The irony of finding two other woo-tolerant Lemmites in this comm.
Once I learned that astrology points to themes of influence on a time frame, it made a lot more sense. Taking it literally and thinking everything is confirmation bias is how people dismiss it. There’s more than a few people that have correctly nailed a lot of big events, it’s more about technique it seems. Nick Dagen Best published a book I think in 2013 or 2016 that is hitting hard right now - totally called Trump 2 and stuck to his guns on that.
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I like maps. I like puzzles. Astrology’s both.
First got intrigued when in my ignorant militant atheism dogma phase, and someone managed to discern my sun sign, just by my appearance and behaviours. I have since gone on to do the same to others, typically with as much world-view-changing astonishment in them as I experienced.
Can’t be bunk if that can be done.
The observable profiling reality of it, does open minds to wondering about what’s the astrological weather like.
To put on my obnoxious skeptic hat, it sounds like you are analyzing how the historical conditions of people’s upbringing affects each generations’ behaviors and mannerisms. Just, with an astrological chart rather than with a calendar.
it sounds like you are analyzing how the historical conditions of people’s upbringing affects each generations’ behaviors and mannerisms.
I do not know how it sounds like that to you. Seems a strong non sequitur. Maybe I’m missing something. Care to elaborate how you made this leap?
People who grew up around the same time and geography have the same historical pressures on what behaviors they learn. Obviously outcome varies a lot individual to individual, but it creates broad trends among large groups. Sorting chronologically brings those trends to the forefront.
Maybe can cure some diseases.
Even just via the comfort provided. Comfort enough, to get into a parasympathetic dominant mode long enough for the body to heal itself.
Meditation is awesome and useful. But it doesn’t need to be mystical and magical to be great, and I wish more people realized that.
God has not once healed an amputee. What does he have against them?
jealousy that we can keep rocking our body image after losing part of it.
No longer made in his image?
I used to love reading W.I.T.C.H. comics and they always had a bunch of fun stuff about zodiacs and reading the future in tea leaves, moons and stars and all that silly stuff. I friggin loved that shit because it was fun for the imagination and it also tied in well with the comic being about a groups magical girls who get their powers from nature and blah blah blah. I thought it was fun to find out what my element was based on what month I was born in and what my birthstone was and take little personality tests to see which one of the girls I was like the most (9 out of 10 times, I got Taranee).
The thing is, though: I always knew it was just play pretend and fun past time stuff.
I have had that fun permanently destroyed for me after people started believing in astrology and magic for real. I know people irl who refer to their zodiacs as an explanation for how they like their coffee or why they push their work to last minute or why they vibe well with this and that person. They take personality tests and believe it for real instead of using it as some stupid past time fun. Online, it’s even worse. It gives me the same level of ick as the women in Sex and the City.
It absolutely fucking ruined the fun for me and I just can’t read my horoscope anymore because I don’t want anyone to think I’m one of those people.
You might enjoy Terry Pratchett’s witches series. There’s magic, but the real trick is solving your problems without ever using it. Wyrd Systers or Wee Free Men are good places to start.
The map is not the terrain.
Somewhere between naive realism and “some stupid past time fun”, there are maps.
I didn’t even know there was comics, I only knew of the cartoon growing up. I’m the same way, only thing I do is do tarot card readings for me and my gf, we both know it’s just for fun, we also got some cool cards with the images from cyberpunk2077 so there’s that.
I do believe gorilla piss exists.
I do not believe drinking gorilla piss would grant you gorilla strength (citation needed).
I’m so tired of this mainstream propaganda.
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Where would we find the citation you say is needed, for what you do not believe?
Not with that attitude.
well yeah, obviously! You have to dilute it 1000 times for it to have any effect.
well you eyedrop it into your butthole and then expose your butthole to the sun so the positive solar energy modifies it primally because we’re all made of starlight and that’s just how it works
i think i’m gonna need a demonstration kautau
This is why nudist colonies are so vibrant. Easy as.
Dicks out for Harambe. 😔
No, no, no, no. You have to sacrifice a goat by dropping it into a volcano and make sure to drink the piss while the goat is still falling. It works, trust me.
“It’s funny how people will believe in Newton’s laws of motion but still think the Force from Star Wars is mythical nonsense.”
But the Force is Mass times Acceleration!
Midichlorians are the powerhouse of the Force.
fuck me, you got me good I’m mad I laughed as long as I did
No, it’s the Force so it has to be the Mass times the Acceleration.
the Mass times the Acceleration will equal the2 Force.
You forgot the Lorenz factor. The Falcon flies FTL. That’s where the midichlorians fit in.
No it can’t be then The Force will be equal to The²(Mass times Acceleration)
Its either The mass times acceleration or mass times the acceleration
Where we’re going we don’t need commutative multiplication.
Doc, you can’t just put cocaine in the frunk of a CyberTruck and call it a DeLorean!
They also seem to believe wi-fi “powers everything”? What a loon.
Introducing POW (power over wlan)! By broadcasting a constant small gamma wave, small electronic devices can use the latent energy to power electronic components.
I think you’re probably joking, but this actually is a thing. e.g. https://scitechdaily.com/engineers-harvest-energy-from-wifi-signals-to-power-small-electronics/
Yaayyyy, constant gamma radiation!!!
Though I imagine he paid more attention to the cymatic cromulence.
Just if the Hulk comics were released sooner.
“believe in wi-fi”
I peraonally belief in a really thin cable, but big tech is trying to tell us its waves and stuff. But you have your opinion, I have mine. Nobody can be sure wich one is really true.
It’s actually a really REALLY fat cable. We spend our entire time inside it.
data goes in, data goes out. you can’t explain that.
If you don’t believe wi-fi exists, you’d be a fool.
i don’t believe in wifi, just like i don’t believe in trees. i know they’re there. that requires no belief.
The belief would be that your senses aren’t being actively deceived. Also, that you’re not a Boltzmann brain hallucinating in the void.
I personally believe all the axioms of science apply. It’s still fun to poke at them.
the atheist says “i will not believe”. the agnostic says “i can not believe”. one is as dogmatic as the beliefs they purport to refute, the other lacks the capacity for dogma, as belief for them is simply not possible.
I’m willing to accept Atheism, ‘I do not believe in God’, as somewhat dogmatic, but as others have said, it’s the null hypothesis and they have Occam’s razor going for them. Pragmatically it is a useful stance in light of the societal harm religion does.
I am however unwilling to conflate Agnosticism with ‘I can not believe’, always been “I’m waiting for evidence one way or the other” to me, so perhaps the more scientific point of view.
It’s not 3 points, but 4.
Atheist==>Theist Agnostic==>gnostic
There are agnostic atheists and agnostic theists.
to me, those last two statements are pretty close in the grand scheme of things. it was allegorical anyway, since we weren’t really talking about god.
if there is no proof one way or the other, the pragmatic stance is to be neutral. if one side is more theoretically sound, the pragmatic stance is to assume that’s the correct side while still being open to the other. only when there’s proof of one side can you dismuss the other. none of those steps require “belief”, i.e. unfounded assumptions.
as an aside, personally i feel like religion is one of those issues where there is proof.
Belief in a null is a lot more reasonable than belief in something so powerful it can pretend to be a null.
Belief that I am not in a Truman show like environment is a lot more reasonable (without evidence) than belief that I am in a Truman show, and they are doing a perfect job.
That doesn’t mean I don’t try disproving the null hypothesis.
I don’t think reasonable is even it for me, it’s just a helpful assumption.
If they are doing a perfect job at a Truman show type situation, there’s nothing you can do, so you might as well assume they’re not and play your role.
It’s more reasonable via Occam’s razor (more complexity is less reasonable, when everything else is equal). However it is still just a belief axiom. You have to assume 1 holds.
a hypothesis based on established facts is no longer belief but extrapolation.
It’s an assumption, not an extrapolation. Assumptions, without evidence are beliefs.
We assume several unprovable axioms to allow science to function. A lot of work has also been done to collapse them down to the core minimum. What is left is still built on belief.
The fact that the results are useful back validates those beliefs. It doesn’t prove them however.
No.
Oh, you’re a solipsist? You believe reality is an illusion and trees don’t really exist? I’m somewhat similar, I’m an antirealist. I recognise that reality is an illusion, but I still choose to believe in it until it can be overthrown. If we teach enough people how to reshape their beliefs and perceptions, then we can decide for ourselves whether trees exist. But at present, I need to believe in trees in order to inhabit consensus reality and communicate efficiently with the people who live here. It’s cool that you don’t believe in trees, though!
I’m happier with non-belief, than squirming through the exercise of deciding what to believe and disbelieve under the unchecked presumption that we must believe something.
Even more so for the distinct “believing in” something.
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I only believe in my own wifi. My wifi is the one true wifi.
Maybe you just don’t understand how I use them?
If you assume I’m using them nonsensically, then yes, I suppose they would seem nonsensical to you…
if someone is trying to “convert” you to esoteric/occult beliefs, then that person has no idea what they’re talking about
So many layers to unpack here.
Specifically OSI layers 1 and 2!
I do subscribe to a small comfort belief that our consciousness isn’t just encoded in our neurons but has a radiative component that constructively/destructively interferes with the environment on some small level we atttibute to random events, and that when we die, we sever only the somatic component of our consciousness but our radiative part lives on encoded into a wider network of ambient thought.
Sort of like ghosts/an afterlife, but less moaning and chain rattling and more general vibing the emotion of a park bench from the overlapped thought networks that ever intersected it
Might be in the wrong sub…
What you are describing maps quite well to the Quantum Memory Model (accessible explanation here) of Physics. Certainly considering information a fundamental quantity that can neither be created nor destroyed is becoming a popular concept.
I think consciousness is more than just our neurons, it’s an active waveform riding and guided by them.
Unfortunately, I don’t think it survives death. Without the underlying structure, it collapses to noise.
Interestingly, our brains have special circuits, design to emulate others. In effect, our consciousness imprints onto theirs. It’s not the full pattern, and imperfect, but a part of us lives on in the consciousness of everyone who knows us.
Like ripples in a pond. The water of the initial wave is no longer involved, but it has passed to others.
Interestingly, our brains have special circuits, design to emulate others. In effect, our consciousness imprints onto theirs. It’s not the full pattern, and imperfect, but a part of us lives on in the consciousness of everyone who knows us.
I think this is a far better explained version of what I’m yammering on about. Echoes of yourself living on in other conscious beings, fragmented 1000fold into the general aether of all those you’ve interacted with
I think you had the better version straight out of the gate.
It’s useful to understand the mechanisms, it helps you to understand both what it can do, and its limitations. E.g. they can only mirror the parts they see or talk about. The parts of yourself that you hide away will be lost from their imperfect model.
For more info, it generally falls under “mirror neurons”. They help us empathise with others. E.g. when we smile, certain mirror neurons start firing. When we see someone smile, the same ones fire. We feel the appropriate emotions because of this. They also fire preemptively. E.g. when you hear your mother yelling about the mess, even though you’ve lived alone for a decade.
Ah right. I guess I’m sort of implying that the hidden parts are also imprinted somehow too, through a vague hand-wavey mechanism that I’ve yet to define
Sounds a bit like if we die, we retreat into the human noosphere and become a concept instead of a person
Cool, so you have evidence for this? Or do you routinely believe in outrageous things with zero evidence?
The latter, with a ‘s/routinely/rare/’
I also have some curious thoughts about higher dimensional beings as well as some murmurs about what the rustling of trees might be a proxy for if you need the extra fodder, or just a fun drink in a pub somewhere
what
They conscript themselves unto a diminutive solace tenet that our noetic essence is not merely inscribed within our cerebral neurons but encompasses a resplendent effulgence that constructively/destructively commingles with the circumambient firmament upon some infinitesimal stratum we ascribe to capricious vicissitudes, and that upon our demise, we sunder solely the corporeal partition of our noetic essence whilst our effulgent essence endures, enscrolled within a vaster concatenation of ambient cogitation.
Somewhat reminiscent of phantasms/an empyrean continuance, yet less plaintive wailing and clanking of fetters and more ethereal attunement to the affective emanation of a park bench amid the interlaced noetic filigrees that have ever impinged upon it.
They might be in the wrong comm though…
Lo verrily, I thank thee kind gentleman scholar to the spirit of thine timely repose of which mine gedankenings give flight to the fanciness of bees. May the everlasting illumination of others through proxy prose continue to be a boon to those who entreat upon it!
