According to AP, there were messages engraved on the casings in the Kirk shooting. They read:
- One read, “hey fascist! catch!” with an up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols.
- Another one read: “oh bella ciao bella ciao bella ciao ciao ciao,” Cox said.
- The third fired casing read: “if you read this you are gay lmao.”
My first thought is. Whoever killed Kirk was clearly inspired by Luigi. The writing on the casings just like Luigi did. The timing. It just makes sense.
Does this mean Luigi’s propaganda of the deed was successful? I think so. In any case, I wonder if this means there is more to come.
According to AP, there were messages engraved on the casings in the Kirk shooting.
Careful there. That’s not according to the AP, that’s ultimately according to the FBI. And if you think Kash Patel and his yes-men are above fabricating evidence to enable Trump to pin the murder on the woke-DEI-LGBT-left-whatever, I have a bridge to sell you.
I’ll believe it when I see it, and not with a missing minute in the video.
Sure it’s possible it was fabricated. But I don’t think it’s particularly outlandish.
In any case, with your comments feedback in mind, perhaps the original discussion should be had with the caveat of “assuming these engravings are legitimate (not given)”
Yeah it’s plausible. It’s just that you can’t trust anything any part of the US administration says is true and impartial anymore, is my point.
Kash Patel is literally a violent coup plotter, he will say anything if it helps Trump.
But how does this guy being to the right of MAGA and not knowing the whole Konami Code help Trump?
Same I’m quite skeptical. Also skeptical a cover-up would last long without falling apart given how smart and well coordinated the trump team is. Fingers crossed.
Though always skeptical, I believe this 96.73%. If the government was going to scratch up some fake shells, they could make that “evidence” hella more inflammatory.
Fuck Charlie Kirk, but you’d think a leftist would think twice about the psychological harm done to 3000 people in attendance watching their idol get shot in the neck. Talk about a radicalizing event. Its like an instant 3000 more alt right militants. Pretty boneheaded move from a “radical leftist.”
Edit: Looks like they have him in custody. sounds like he was a right wing 4channer. lol
edit2: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers
Edit3: high chance this political donation is not him, but someone else with the same name from the same town in UT…
Talk about a radicalizing event. Its like an instant 3000 more alt right militants.
Yeah, … but also no. If your conclusion is “the left is out to get us” in the middle of confusion and chaos, before any evidence comes forward, then I am afraid you were already radicalized.
I hear you, obviously most people at the event were probably far right – but I don’t think necessarily all militant. My point is it’s not very hard to imagine the psychological condition of 3000k people – who’ve just experienced their cultural representative (culturep?) being assassinated live and in person – trending even more towards violence. I think that’s a pretty precedented way for a social group to process that kinda of psychological trauma.
you were already radicalized.
I’m a radical. Please don’t conflate my politics with those of right-wingers… you know, those people whose politics is entirely about being anti-radical?
Talk about a radicalizing event.
Somehow, I don’t think the majority of the people present will suddenly turn into radicals… considering that they are intensely anti-radical, correct?
Before it gets memory-holed:
That was before J6, though, so personally I think the possibilities are still open, especially given “entrepreneur” and Trump’s appeal to the petite bourgeoisie.
My name is exactly that common. There were 5 of us in my high school.
The up-right-down-down-down symbol os from hell divers. Its the code for a 500kg bomb
Ahhh I just thought he couldn’t remember the whole Konami Code.
The casings
Hmmm I see none of that stuff
Casings are three dimensional objects.
How very astute of you.
If shooter actually is a leftist, i think at least one of them would have read “nya :3”
How the hell do you engrave all that on a casing? It’d have to be super-small. Did he use a machine?
The engraving were on several bullets (found in the gun) not just the one he ended up using
Yeah, I get that. It’s just that some news reports say he had “bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao” engraved on one. That’s a lot of text to engrave on a small brass cylinder.
You can rotate the bullet to add multiple lines.
Does this mean Luigi’s propaganda of the deed was successful?
Luigi’s action was successful - and a lot of that success had to do with the fact that Luigi was not seen by the public as an overt political actor… merely somebody screwed over by Big Healthcare Inc.
Overt attempts to “rinse and repeat” this as a PotD “process” is going to backfire and come crashing down to earth hard.
Besides… reading those messages engraved into the casings I have to wonder if the shooter hadn’t gotten it into their head to do a “false flag” op all by their lonesome - they are pretty damn cringy.
Engraving one with “if you read this, your gay lmao” does suggest they are just being edgy.
Wouldnt suprise me if they made a greentext just before.
Have you ever heard an actual antifascist use the song “Bella Ciao” as if it’s a 4chan meme?
I certainly haven’t.
But what are the concrete outcomes here? Brian Thompson was more widely hated. I think this one will come with a lot more negative consequences.
The point of propaganda of the deed is to inspire revolution. I don’t see that happening from either of these actions. If anything it could lead to civil war, which is not desirable.
Brian Thompson was more widely hated.
Not only that, but Thompson’s death wasn’t seen as overtly political by the public. If Kirk’s shooter, for example, turned out to be someone that lost a family member in a mass-shooting, their actions is going to be relatable to the public - just like Luigi’s action was. But if the shooter just turns out to be somebody trying to make a political point… well, we all know how that’s going to turn out.
This is the problem with these high stakes PotD games… they backfire real easy, and a lot of the people willing to do it are also the people that seem to understand that the least.
Why and how did they find three casings if it was only one shot? Doesn’t add up.
They were in the weapon they found? I’m not defending anyone or thing as true, but I believe there’s multiple ways this adds up pretty evenly lol
Yes exactly. These were found not fired in the weapon dumped in the woods the FBI retrieved. According to the FBI.
OK thanks. Generally casings or shells refer to the spent cartridges, which is why I was confused.
Maybe left intentionally as an homage to Luigi?
Luigi’s case had much more serious irony(though I hate to use the word), wouldn’t you agree? Maybe more info will be released to spotlight the missing seriousness or political influences tho
I’m not sure what you mean here. What made it more ironic?
The delay, deny, depose being a direct quote from the insurance industry as a whole thus the more serious irony. These casings from kirk shooter seem to be ironic for sure, but the irony with the kirk shooter is mostly internet culture/meme-based with the current data I’ve seen anyway
Literally 196 shooter, put them up to the chair for writing cringe like that alone
And no, propaganda of the deed has been shown to not work in Luigi’s case. It’s literally been more than 9 months, it didn’t inspire the public at large at all (unless you count online larping) and just another lone wolf who from what I can see just recently got into leftism.
I think Luigis case has made the average person more sympathetic to terribleness of insurance.
Maybe, but healthcare question was already the biggest in US, with endless talks because it doesn’t suit business interests.
Besides, sympathy alone won’t bring about change, which is the goal.
It’s literally been more than 9 months,
That’s not how any propaganda works, never mind “propaganda of the deed” - there’s a reason people talk about propaganda campaigns and not propaganda events. You need a lot of it before it actually starts working.
Assassination has always been a seriously risky form of POTD - as the old anarchists dicovered the really, really hard way.
Yeah, old anarchists were outright against it.
Also, campaign implies an organized effort, but these individual murders are anything but. Essentially what we got so far weren’t campaigns or even events necessarily, but mere spectacles. Momentary and fleeting, lasting until news cycles stop reporting on it and move on
This kind of unilateral shitfuckery have always created more problems for anarchists than anything else… they still blame an anarchist for starting WW1 for Christ’s sake - you’d think we’d be more vocal about our disapproval of it, but apparently, that’s a bridge too far for us.
What anarchist started WW1? Gavrilo Princip was a nationalist, not an anarchist. Inspired by anarchists and anarchist strategies, but he was a nationalist above all.
A lot of propaganda at the time blamed anarchists… and I’ve seen it repeated plenty of times - even in our history textbooks here in Aprtheid-era South Africa.
When I was in school where I live (America) it was taught he was a serbian nationalist affiliated with the Black Hand. Not saying you arent right, just saying that it depends on your education
Doesn’t matter. That’s not the point.
Based on the helldivers 2 stratagem on the 1st unfired round, I suspect the bella ciao message also comes from a game, heart of iron IV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-qTuXDEnFo
Bella Ciao is an italian partisan song that has been used by antifascists since Mussolini took power. I highly doubt its a video game reference even if he was possibly first introduced to the song by HOI4.
Yes of course. I would still argue it seems like a video game reference (several other games also feature it). There’s a strange irony that many of these games satirize fascist nations.
I doubt Luigi was the first person to engrave bullet casings.
Any1 θt saw θ shootŋ (⚠️🩸☠️): θr was only 1 perfect jugular shot. So θr șuld b 1 casŋ, if at all. Knowŋ θ FBI restartd θ search, even accusd some1 wo/evidence, leads me t believe θ sniper collectd θir casŋ too.
broke θ 🔗 t prevent DDoS. Use anoθr nitter instance if xcancel quota was reachd.
I’m having to sound out your comment like I’m learning to read again. Why do you type like this?
I know you’re trying to fuck up AI, but you’re just fucking up us humans. If you’re so worried about AI scraping your comments, don’t comment.
Anyone that saw that shooting (⚠️🩸☠️): There was only 1 perfect jugular shot. So There should be one casing, if at all. Knowing that FBI restarted that search, even accused someone without evidence, leads me to believe that sniper collected their casing too.
Broke the link to prevent DDoS. Use another nitter instance if xcancel quota was reached.
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God… is that what we’ll have to type like in ten years’ time?
That implies this fascist AI hype will last that long.
And that’s assuming English will even dominate, that long too.
That implies this fascist AI hype will last that long.
AI is the only tool they have to enclose and clamp down on the internet… it’s not going anywhere.
The other three casings were in the magazine, with the bullets still in them. The spent casing was still in the chamber, since the rifle was bolt-action.
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