Ah, yes, of course, and Russia is a beautiful country, not doing imperialism right now. They are definitely not murdering innocent people on the daily
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They literary have NATO and Ukraine as “fascist”. They are a Russia shill
I would say both sides are fascist Libya is the best example for Nato fascism. They nationalised the oil to benefit the people and stop western cooperations from pillaging them and got invaded by Nato forces to go from one of the most prosperous countries in Africa to a failed state with an open air slave market. Had nothing to do with human rights. And Ukraine has a Nazi problem. Not a reason to invade of course (I hate the Russian government too) but just reality.
Best of luck. Burgerlanders tend not to stray outside the Five Eyes corporate media bubble while imagining themselves well-informed.
Three women, loads of lies and the destruction of Libya
Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice and Samantha Power were the three principal advocates of war against Libya in 2011, setting the North African nation on a free fall ever since. Demonstrations broke out in some Libyan cities against the government of late Muammar Gaddafi in February 2011, in what became known as the “Arab Spring” that engulfed the region. However, Libya’s promised spring turned into a destructive autumn during which Gaddafi was murdered on 20 October, 2011, and Libya was left anguishing in lawlessness, courtesy of the three women.
Samatha Power currently runs USAID, nominated for the position by Biden. Until recently Susan Rice ran the Domestic Policy Council, also picked by Biden.
Nato and Ukraine are fascist tho… so is Russia but ignoring the other two just make you a fascist as well.
There are Russian fascists. Take Navalny, for example, who the US tried to use in its regime change efforts so that it could resume its neoliberal shock therapy plundering that started under Yeltsin and ended under Putin.
Russia is fighting Nazis to liberate Donbas. They are not doing imperialism. They are only killing Nazis.
Liberate is when ecocide?
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As to whether Russia is doing imperialism, I’ll copypasta myself:
Honest question from a non-communist, based on your reply here. Does one need to support Putin to be a Marxist?
In a word, no. In a few more words, support for Russia (not Putin, as historical materialists don’t subscribe to great man theory) is only a partial, temporary, tactical one, in the context of imperialist liberation. Russia is still a capitalist state, though, so it’s a two stage strategy: first liberate colonized bourgeois states from colonizer states, and second revolution within those liberated bourgeois states.
Russia is an interesting case: it has already liberated itself from the post-Soviet “shock therapy” neocolonizers. This occurred during Putin’s administration, which is why he is especially hated by the US. So now the support for Russia is in the context of keeping the colonizers from recolonizing it, and supporting Russia to the extent that it helps other states liberate themselves. But Russia isn’t trying to “liberate” Ukraine, at least not all of Ukraine. It’s trying to resolve the genocidal attacks on the people of the Donbas, and it’s trying to resolve the imperialist military expansion at its border.
Poor Russia. The only non-fascist fascist.
Politics on Lemmy confuse the fuck outta me.
You get the usual blend of ⅔ mostly reasonable people and ⅓ super intense people who are not fun to talk to, they just stan different authoritarians.
It’s due to the .ml
me: “I like my current lifestyle and have a good group of close friends.”
Politicknick: “you support a LGBTQ fascist regime that is hell bent on nazifying the leftist zionistic palestinian in kiev with socialist capitalism, and you should feel horrible about yourself before we kill you and you die.”
@ lemmy.ml
What is the .ml for?
That’ll be “marxist-leninist”
The fuck did Ukraine do?
In fairness, they defied Russia and had the audacity to want to be sovereign. /S
Gasp… The audacity! How dare they!
had the audacity to want to be sovereign.
And we know that just isn’t allowed. Just ask the people of Crimea and Donbas…
I would, but they’ve all been deported to deep inside russia
What? You didn’t know? They secretly exterminated 6 M russian citizens on a secret 4x4 lab buried deep in Mariupol! And if you need more prove, they are fighting against Russia, they are fascists!!!
Banned all leftist political parties but left the openly nazi ones.
Ah yes, because there definitely wasn’t some other common characteristic to the (not only leftist, as you carefully avoided mentioning) parties that were banned
Something like, I don’t know, supporting the country actively invading Ukraine, perhaps?
You’re just making shit up.
Which bit did I make up?
Locked people in the Odessa trade union meeting hall and burned them alive on May 1, 2014, for starters
Source?
Edit: so I figured I go investigate for myself and by “Ukraine” you mean random citizens involved in what was basically a civil war, the people in the building were using it as a fortress, and blockaded themselves inside, and by “people” you meant Russian separatist insurrectionists, who were firing from the building and throwing Molotov cocktails into the crowd below.
They are a puppet of NATO
Lol
ml users leaking
In fairness, this sub in on the ml instance
Uh… How can a organisation like NATO be fascist?
Invasion of Libya, bombing of Yugoslavia
Going to war isn’t fascism. Fascism is not a label that means “I think they did something wrong”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#:~:text=Fascism (%2F%CB%88f%C3%A6%CA%83,individual%20interests%20for%20the%20perceived
Man why do people not know what fascism is?
They are a union of the bourgeoisie of imperialist nations to defend their bourgeois and colonial interest . Fascism is capitalism in decay. And imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism.
So, after redefining fascism, they’re fascist. Got it.
If capitalism was the reason then there would be a lot more flags in the image - including Russia. Probably has something to do with a current event…
Saint Petersburg trolls discovered Lemmy… Welcome to 2024!
You put the wrong flags except for the US, you forgot the Russian, Chinese, North Korean and the Islamic state flags
The Israeli flag belongs too though.
Then Turkey, Belarus and India too
Okay
All countries are inherently fascist. If rule exists, it’s fascism.
Banger post, OP
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I like turtles
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This one made me laugh
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- The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
- Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
- NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
- The blueprint of regime change operations
- History of Fascism in Ukraine Part I: The Origins of the OUN 1917-1941
- History of Fascism in Ukraine Part II: The OUN during World War 2, 1941-1945
- History of Fascism in Ukraine Part III: 1944-1963 UPA War, Ratlines, and the Assassination of Stepan Bandera
- History of Fascism in Ukraine Part IV: The Global OUN Network in Exile, 1962-1992
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
- Truthout, 2015: The Ukraine Mess That Nuland Made
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
- WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
- Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
- Consortium News, 2022: Evidence of US-Backed Coup in Kiev
- The Conversation, 2022: Ukraine war follows decades of warnings that NATO expansion into Eastern Europe could provoke Russia
Presence of Hamas in Palestine: I sleep
Presence of Neo-Nazis in Ukraine: Real shit
Israel is commiting a genocide. Russia isn’t in Ukraine for Neo-Nazis
I’m not reading every article you posted cuz I have a life, but this random one I clicked says this
To be clear, the Kremlin’s claims that Ukraine is a hornets’ nest of fascists are false: far-right parties performed poorly in Ukraine’s last parliamentary elections, and Ukrainians reacted with alarm to the National Militia’s demonstration in Kiev.
Yeah, there are neo-nazi fascists in Ukraine. And almost every other country on earth. They have a problem, and the war with Russia made it more difficult for them to deal with it. But unless you can’t point me to one article (instead of listing a dozen at a time for some reason) that indicates it’s backed by the Ukrainian government, then I don’t see why the Ukrainian flag should be included in this meme. The US flag, sure, it looks like one of the articles is suggesting the US has supported fascists in Ukraine. But not Ukraine itself, and Russia is absolutely not invading to defeat the neo-nazis in Ukraine. Especially since Putin has been a textbook fascist since he took office and has barely tried to hide it.
