Not only are westerners no longer aware of what happened to him; but they won’t be able to see how much wasted resources were expended to silence him because the record says that he was arrested for marijuana.
And the western ignorance gets additional layers when you consider that marijuana’s illegalality as part of a push to help silence people like Sinclair by using the legal system – another fact that was also publicly admitted to by it’s perpetrators decades ago, but westerners are still unaware even though it’s responsible for imprisoning or jailing millions of people around them every day.
And the layers get thicker when you consider that it has to be someone like Sinclair solely because of his relationship with John Lennon – his notoriety is more undeniable that the current set of artists in the Western world currently experiencing their own silencing – something that suggests your argument is in bad faith considering your displayed ignorance of them.
Look into the background of his arrest to understand that the American government expended significantly more effort to silence people like Sinclair than the Chinese ever had done to these evangelical nutjobs – combined.
If only the US would arest their weird evangelicals instead of letting them run the country and back genocide in the hopes of fulfilling their religious nonsense.
You just learned of John Sinclair so I would recommend teaching yourself what happened to the Uyghurs – beyond what Wikipedia, or Fox, or NPR, or the BBC, or der Spiegel, or le Monde tells you.
Do you take Christian evangelical on a self proclaimed mission from god to destroy China who speaks neither Mandarin nor Uyghur Adrian Zenz at his word
Or do you take the OIC and UN at their word that their were abuses not dissimilar to the US treatment of poc during a crackdown on terrorism (racial profiling and dragnet policing).
And if 2 do you realise it was quite literally a saintly response compared to the “free world” who in response to terrorism funded alqaeda, Isis, boko haram and more and then used them as pretext to destroy Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Afghanistan killing millions.
Yes I know Gao Zhen the weird evangelical. And again I wish Americans would do something about theirs instead of letting them run the country and back genocide to bring about the third temple or whatever nonsense they believe.
Fr!!! The shit the evangelicals are doing makes it clear that they’re the american culture war’s footsoldiers exported outside it’s borders and they’re currently wreaking havoc in Latin America and eventually the rest of the world eventually.
However, this claim is completely absurd when you stop and think about it even for a minute. That figure 1 million is repeated again and again. Let’s just look at how much space would you actually need to intern one million people.
This is a photo of Rikers Island, New York City’s biggest prison. The actual size of a facility interning ten thousand people.
According to Wikipedia, “The average daily inmate population on the island is about 10,000, although it can hold a maximum of 15,000.” Let’s assume this is a Xinjiang detention camp, holding ten to fifteen thousand people. How many of these would it take to hold one million people?
Let’s do some math:
Rikers Size
Rikers Prisoners
One Million Uyghurs Size
413.2 acres (0.645 square miles)
10,000 to 15,000
43 to 64 square miles
In reality, one million people would probably take more space; all the supposed detention camps we see are much less dense than Rikers.
For comparison, San Francisco is 47 square miles. Amsterdam is 64 square miles. You’d literally need detention camps that total the size of San Francisco or Amsterdam to intern one million Uyghurs. It’d be like looking at a map of California. There’s Los Angeles. There’s San Diego. And look, there’s San Francisco Concentration City with its one million Uyghurs.
Practically all the stories we see about China trace back to Adrian Zenz is a far right fundamentalist nutcase and not a reliable source for any sort of information. The fact that he’s the primary source for practically every article in western media demonstrates precisely what I’m talking about when I say that coverage is divorced from reality.
Along with his “mission” against China, heavenly guidance has apparently prompted Zenz to denounce homosexuality, gender equality, and the banning of physical punishment against children as threats to Christianity.
The fact that this nutcase is being paraded as a credible researcher on the subject is absolutely surreal, and it’s clear that the methodology of his “research” doesn’t pass any kind of muster when examined closely.
It’s also worth noting that there is a political angle around the narrative around Xinjiang. For example, here’s George Bush’s chief of staff openly saying that US wants to destabilize the region, and NED recently admitting to funding Uyghur separatism for the past 16 years on their own official Twitter page. An ex-CIA operative details US operations radicalizing and training terrorists in the region in this book. Here’s an excerpt:
It’s also worth noting that the accusations originate entirely from the west while Muslim majority countries support China, and their leaders have visited Xinjiang many times.
This is dumb, China is worse than the USA regarding free speech and these scientists will not have more academic freedom in China
Edit: I am an idiot and might not know what I’m talking about after OP’s further comments…
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68873825
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67155421
https://apnews.com/live/college-protests-Palestine-updates
https://time.com/6968385/google-fires-workers-protesting-israeli-contract-project-nimbus/
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2025/08/28/two-microsoft-workers-fired-after-occupying-president-s-office-in-antiisrael-protest
Yeah, I’m sure some internet troll knows better than Nobel winning scientists moving to China where there’s more academic freedom. 🤡
What I do know is an artist was just imprisoned for 3 years for making a funny statue of a dead Chinese commie leader 🤡
Three years? Only a communist country would punish dissidents so harshly.
Meanwhile…
Or even…
Which of these were an artist?
John Sinclair is a great counterargument.
Not only are westerners no longer aware of what happened to him; but they won’t be able to see how much wasted resources were expended to silence him because the record says that he was arrested for marijuana.
And the western ignorance gets additional layers when you consider that marijuana’s illegalality as part of a push to help silence people like Sinclair by using the legal system – another fact that was also publicly admitted to by it’s perpetrators decades ago, but westerners are still unaware even though it’s responsible for imprisoning or jailing millions of people around them every day.
And the layers get thicker when you consider that it has to be someone like Sinclair solely because of his relationship with John Lennon – his notoriety is more undeniable that the current set of artists in the Western world currently experiencing their own silencing – something that suggests your argument is in bad faith considering your displayed ignorance of them.
This is a great example, thanks
Look into the background of his arrest to understand that the American government expended significantly more effort to silence people like Sinclair than the Chinese ever had done to these evangelical nutjobs – combined.
Oh yeah, let’s just see what a Chinese dissident artist has to say about it https://www.reuters.com/world/china/ai-weiwei-says-west-lacks-moral-authority-criticise-beijing-rights-2026-01-29/
Ah so what you know is what your lazy propagandists feed you because they don’t have to try hard to convince racists imbeciles of absurdities.
You don’t know Jack.
If only the US would arest their weird evangelicals instead of letting them run the country and back genocide in the hopes of fulfilling their religious nonsense.
Something something Uyghurs?
You just learned of John Sinclair so I would recommend teaching yourself what happened to the Uyghurs – beyond what Wikipedia, or Fox, or NPR, or the BBC, or der Spiegel, or le Monde tells you.
You tell me. Look at images from Urumqi compared to Gaza.
Please expand
Do you take Christian evangelical on a self proclaimed mission from god to destroy China who speaks neither Mandarin nor Uyghur Adrian Zenz at his word
Or do you take the OIC and UN at their word that their were abuses not dissimilar to the US treatment of poc during a crackdown on terrorism (racial profiling and dragnet policing).
And if 2 do you realise it was quite literally a saintly response compared to the “free world” who in response to terrorism funded alqaeda, Isis, boko haram and more and then used them as pretext to destroy Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Afghanistan killing millions.
Chinese artist Gao Zhen sentenced to 3 years in prison over satirical Mao artworks https://share.google/XrgGCwRfFETb51ZHL
All I know is if I speak ill of dear dead leader I’ll be imprisoned. Fuck the United States but let’s not pretend that China is an ally
I’m Chinese. I’m not American. Ally to who?
Yes I know Gao Zhen the weird evangelical. And again I wish Americans would do something about theirs instead of letting them run the country and back genocide to bring about the third temple or whatever nonsense they believe.
Fr!!! The shit the evangelicals are doing makes it clear that they’re the american culture war’s footsoldiers exported outside it’s borders and they’re currently wreaking havoc in Latin America and eventually the rest of the world eventually.
Something something, it’s easy to feed propaganda to racists?
The whole conspiracy theory started with a claim of millions of Uyghurs being supposedly imprisoned story is based on two highly dubious “studies.”.
However, this claim is completely absurd when you stop and think about it even for a minute. That figure 1 million is repeated again and again. Let’s just look at how much space would you actually need to intern one million people.
This is a photo of Rikers Island, New York City’s biggest prison. The actual size of a facility interning ten thousand people.
According to Wikipedia, “The average daily inmate population on the island is about 10,000, although it can hold a maximum of 15,000.” Let’s assume this is a Xinjiang detention camp, holding ten to fifteen thousand people. How many of these would it take to hold one million people?
Let’s do some math:
In reality, one million people would probably take more space; all the supposed detention camps we see are much less dense than Rikers.
For comparison, San Francisco is 47 square miles. Amsterdam is 64 square miles. You’d literally need detention camps that total the size of San Francisco or Amsterdam to intern one million Uyghurs. It’d be like looking at a map of California. There’s Los Angeles. There’s San Diego. And look, there’s San Francisco Concentration City with its one million Uyghurs.
Literally visible to the naked eye from space.
CHRD states that it interviewed dozens of ethnic Uyghurs in the course of its study, but their enormous estimate was ultimately based on interviews with exactly eight Uyghur individuals. Based on this absurdly small sample of research subjects in an area whose total population is 20 million, CHRD “extrapolated estimates” that “at least 10% of villagers […] are being detained in re-education detention camps, and 20% are being forced to attend day/evening re-education camps in the villages or townships, totaling 30% in both types of camps.” Furthermore, it doesn’t even make sense from logistics perspective.
Practically all the stories we see about China trace back to Adrian Zenz is a far right fundamentalist nutcase and not a reliable source for any sort of information. The fact that he’s the primary source for practically every article in western media demonstrates precisely what I’m talking about when I say that coverage is divorced from reality.
Zenz is a born-again Christian who lectures at the European School of Culture and Theology. This anodyne-sounding campus is actually the German base of Columbia International University, a US-based evangelical Christian seminary which considers the “Bible to be the ultimate foundation and the final truth in every aspect of our lives,” and whose mission is to “educate people from a biblical worldview to impact the nations with the message of Christ.”
Zenz’s work on China is inspired by this biblical worldview, as he recently explained in an interview with the Wall Street Journal. “I feel very clearly led by God to do this,” he said. “I can put it that way. I’m not afraid to say that. With Xinjiang, things really changed. It became like a mission, or a ministry.”.
Along with his “mission” against China, heavenly guidance has apparently prompted Zenz to denounce homosexuality, gender equality, and the banning of physical punishment against children as threats to Christianity.
Zenz outlined these views in a book he co-authored in 2012, titled Worthy to Escape: Why All Believers Will Not Be Raptured Before the Tribulation. In the tome, Zenz discussed the return of Jesus Christ, the coming wrath of God, and the rise of the Antichrist.
The fact that this nutcase is being paraded as a credible researcher on the subject is absolutely surreal, and it’s clear that the methodology of his “research” doesn’t pass any kind of muster when examined closely.
It’s also worth noting that there is a political angle around the narrative around Xinjiang. For example, here’s George Bush’s chief of staff openly saying that US wants to destabilize the region, and NED recently admitting to funding Uyghur separatism for the past 16 years on their own official Twitter page. An ex-CIA operative details US operations radicalizing and training terrorists in the region in this book. Here’s an excerpt:
US has been stoking terrorism in the region while they’ve been running a propaganda campaign against China in the west. In fact, US even classified Uyghur separatists as a terrorist group at one point https://www.mintpressnews.com/us-was-at-war-uyghur-terrorists-now-claims-etim-doesnt-exist/276916/
Here’s an interview with a son of imam killed in Xinjiang https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-06-19/Son-of-imam-assassinated-in-Kashgar-s-2014-mosque-attack-speaks-out-RqNiyrcRuo/index.html
Here’s an account from a Pakistani journalist who has been all over Xinjiang (which borders Pakistan) claims that western media reports on “atrocities” are lies. https://dailytimes.com.pk/723317/exposing-the-occidents-baseless-lies-about-xinjiang/
It’s also worth noting that the accusations originate entirely from the west while Muslim majority countries support China, and their leaders have visited Xinjiang many times.
Also notable that whenever western media actually deigns to visit Xinjiang, which is not often, they’re unable to produce support for any of their claims of mass imprisonment and oppression, so they opt for insinuations instead https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-china-health-travel-7a6967f335f97ca868cc618ea84b98b9
Oh shit dog I’m just a puppy in this fight 😂😂 this is impressive response