No scientific proof at all but it feels like washing powder does a much better job at removing stains than washing liquid.
It also seems more and more difficult to find washing powder in store as manufacturers are moving to liquid and even more a rip off - pods. Don’t get me started on these money spinners.
What is your experience and what works best?
probably depends on the brand, but ive recently bought liquid, and seems to do the same thing, but the clothes smell a lot nicer
In my personal experience, both for dishwashers and laundry, powder does a better job.
TechnologyConnections did a study claiming that the big name powders are enshitifying their products to push you to the more expensive pods.
They promote a full strength powder
Not just promote, he designed his own dishwashing powder. I’ve never seen anyone who passionate about dishwashers as this guy
He made his own dishwasher powder? I was unaware of that, I’ll have to try to find that
It works great but in my experience it was too dry. Made me cough every time we opened the bag and detergent just puffed into the air.
I already make my own laundry soap, so I wonder if it’s that different
This one isn’t really his product, technically, though he did help design it. It’s an EcoGeek product sold at Good.store (which is an “all proceeds go to charity” seller started by John and Hank Green.
Here’s the link, in case you’re curious. I kinda felt like it wasn’t worth the price tag, regardless of whether proceeds were going to charity. It works really well though.
Yeah, I checked that out after you mentioned it existed and promptly stopped caring when I saw it’s > .50/load.
I haven’t had a need to make my own dishwasher powder like I have laundry powder, so I’ve been using boxes powder, but no way in fuck am I paying that kind of price for it. I’d make it myself for that price…
From the mention of stains I assume OP is talking about laundry not dishes.
The comments here are interesting. There’s a very important detail you left out, and everyone is just assuming in their responses.
OP, what are you trying to wash? Laundry, dishes (in a dishwasher, or by hand), or something else entirely?
I avoid pods due to microplastics.
There’s a guy on YouTube that covers this. Powders can contain bleach and cleaning agents in the same mix since they are dry. This gives the best of both worlds. With liquids, the two interact and break down the coach resulting in a poorer result. Pods can keep the components separate but why pay the extra? Something like that anyway. Personal experience is that liquids leave a funky buildup over time that you just don’t get with powders.
Yeah. Pods is no good because it all goes in at the smae time.
For optimal results have some powder in the chamber and in the machine for prewash
That guy is full of BS. There is a noticeable difference in dishwashing tablets as well. I tested cheap tablets after seeing his video and it left massive stripes.
He’s one of those cargo cult scientists trying to make you believe he’s smart while he’s not
You talking about TechnologyConnections? Cause damn, dude. “I tested cheap tablets and my results didn’t match his so he’s full of BS” is a wild take. He specifically talks about formulation being important in later dishwashing videos, not all detergents are created equally.
But I have had great results switching to the powder version of a name brand.
Yeah that guy. He basically went “all the fancy color soap does nothin and all dishwasher tablets are basically the same” but that is most definitely false.
If my results dont match his claim then his research sucks.
You’re missing at least 2/3rds, if not more, of his dishwasher saga. He addresses and validates people’s poor results, providing possible reasons for the differences including water quality, detergent quality, etc.
But no, he’s definitely full of BS. /s
It’s been a while but IIRC he says “turn up the heat that’s most important” but it really isn’t.
The problem with the question is us, the consumers. When is the last time you sat down to read the instructions in great detail? A cursory look at the recommended temperature maybe and off we go. Meanwhile a labcoat has produced the greatest formula to clean everything at room temperature. If only we used this much water and these many spin cycles. But no one read the back of the container.
Where I am at, people tend to not do a hot cycle or if they need it they go to a launderette. The liquid works okay on clothes in a cold cycle. But bed sheets and towels start smelling if they don’t get at least a 40C/100F cycle every once in a while. And I do that one on powder because it was the only one that wasn’t designed to be for cold wash only. So to summarize this extremely boring anecdote: it depends where you are, what your machine is like, and probably on local water quality as well. Or: we’ll never find a good answer here that satisfies the demands of the scientific method.
I never wash anything in hot, it’s really bad for your clothes / fabrics. My stuff doesn’t smell when it comes out, and my clothing lasts ages.
The smell is from your washing machine, not the cold wash of your laundry. Doing a hot cycle occasionally will help clean the mold & mildew from inside the machine, even without it having items in it. Even better if you put some bleach or a cleaning tablet in it
It’s not from the machine because I clean that as well. And then all clothes should get the smell and they don’t. It’s a riddle inside an enigma wrapped in confused consumers.
People have different body chemistries, hard vs soft water, etc.
Haven’t used dishwashing liquid, just powder and pods, and the powder works a lot better. But maybe only because the powder also goes in the pre-wash section.
For clothes, I’ve used liquid and sheets, and the liquid works better than the sheets.
Powder has the advantage of not going bad. Liquid on the other hand can.
Also powder is less resource intensive to transport
a lot cheaper too
But liquide is easy tocuse for people like me. But I agree ease of use is not the best criteria. But when you are delivered to yourself and don’t know how to does nor nothing, a pod seems like a good solution, just put one in the drum and done. But after you buy two or three boxes anyone with two brain cells, sees it is a rip off.
It supposedly has an edge in terms of pulling out oils in particular.
My problem is that, as you said, it’s harder to find, and I have a limitation in what I can use to begin with.
I can’t say, when I have used a powder vs a liquid in the past that the difference is so significant that I would bother to hunt down a powder that also fits my niche needs. But if you’re not limited, I would say it’s worth it on average
Hey, it’s me, the body wash guy from the other post.
So as it turns out, washing powder for dishwashers and washing machines are functionally the same base ingredients with dishwashing powders containing a higher ph and powdered bleach. I’ve been experimenting with this and have a recipe for each that does an amazing job.
Unfortunately, my recipe for these does currently use other branded products in the form of Roma Soap and Zote Bar Soap, but this is primarily for convenience as they already meet my expected ratios. Hit me up if you want the recipes, they’re unreasonably good for how cheap they are.
Do you have a web, video, or Lemmy post about it somewhere? I’d be curious about the story?
https://lemmy.world/comment/25333491
I posted the recipe here, I did the research myself based on ingredient lists, break downs of ingredient functions, and trial and error to decide ratios.
It all depends on the quality of the product you buy. I tested good brands powder and liquid and they’re both good. Liquids are easier to refill in the machine. Powders are a bit better in value.
I just use laundry detergent strips. Much more compact, works fine.
You’d be surprised what just sticking stuff on the line for the wind and sun (and rain) to clean can do with certain fabrics, mostly the naturals, and towels. Overnight in some cases, dew helps, I mean I wash them, but not as often. Dyes may fade, but is that worse than falling apart from washing?
I switched years ago to using Nellie’s Laundry Soda and it’s been great for us. Significantly cheaper per load, cleans well, doesn’t overpower you with fragrance, doesn’t gunk up the soap tray in the washer with the slimy residue, and is easily vacuumed up if it spills.
It’s like $90 for an 800-load bucket that weighs 26.5 lbs (12 kg) from Costco. You use 1 Tbsp (15 mL) of powder per normal load, and 2 if it’s a large or really dirty load. I almost always just use 1 and never had an issue.
Our last bucket lasted almost 2.5 years, and we are a larger family with a lot of laundry. Bought our current bucket last November, so should be good until like February 2028. I have a small plastic container on the washer and then refill it from the big bucket once every couple months.
Pair the soda with OxyClean and it works wonders.
Also stopped using fabric softener entirely and found out it’s really not needed. Dryer sheets work well if you need something; no need for liquids.
Finally, I have rediscovered how awesome bleach can be for laundry, and it is also very inexpensive, so definitely recommend looking into that, too.
EDIT: One more thing— always do your wash cycle on at least warm for virtually everything you wash. Regardless of what soap you use, liquid or powder, it’s not as effective in sudsing and such in cold water as it is warmer. I’ve noticed better results using warm for all my colors and then hot for whites, towels, and the like. Cold is only for specific scenarios or garments. In my experience, ink bleeding really isn’t a thing anymore unless you’re making your own tie-dye shirts or something, which was the justification for using cold for colors back in the day.
