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Cake day: December 28th, 2023

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  • Yeah, that’s what I thought

    Let me ask it again, would Kamala have done the awful crimes that trump is doing, yes or no? If yes, justify it, anything short of that is tacit acknowledgement that she wouldn’t (and is exactly the kind of continued deflection I expect from this conversation) because you’d be able to do so if they were as close as you say. I keep hearing that they’re the same, yet aside from supporting Israel (to a bad, but objectively lesser extent), there’s no real argument to be made aside from purity politics. And playing purity politics is a good portion of why we are where we are.

    It’s a simple question, yes or no?

    It’s fucking unbelievable to me the way you write about this, like supporting a genocide is like some little understandable human foible or something. Supporting a genocide makes you completely nonviable. Full stop.

    See, this is why people likely find your views shallow or childish. Supporting the candidate who wanted THE LEAST AMOUNT OF SUFFERING is not the same as supporting everything they support, or even in the same fucking plane as supporting genocide. And if one supports a small amount vs a massive amount, it doesn’t take much brain power to realize that the option to reduce harm is the smaller of the two.

    Also, it helps to understand electoral politics. If you have two options and you don’t choose, you’re choosing to let the majority choose for you and is a tacit vote for the opposition in an election where they were doing everything they can to suppress turnout. I can just as easily make the argument that you indirectly supported even more genocide because you couldn’t vote for the lesser option as you can for me supporting genocide because I voted for Kamala.

    Nothing more needs to be said. You would vote for Hitler himself if he ran on a Dem ticket against Mussolini.

    Yeah, this is also why your views are seen as childish, and makes it blindingly clear you have no understanding of what I’m saying and are just responding emotionally. You’re just trying to get under my skin because you know you can’t respond to my actual point.

    You can just read the rest of my comments for the answer to your questions, I’ve already explained it at least half a dozen times and I’m getting a bit tired of doing so.

    Nah, I want you to defend yourself instead of hiding behind your purity politics.

    But we both know you can’t.


  • Kamala literally supported the genocide in Gaza, and Obama and Biden killed a shitload of kids.

    Oh geez since they’re not perfect, let’s let the Nazis take over. I’m not even trying to sarcastically mock you, that’s literally what’s happening. The fact that you’re hand waving how much worse trump actually is than either Obama or Biden is kinda telling, especially if you really think “The differences are primarily aesthetic and procedural.”

    They really aren’t that different.

    Let me ask it again, would Kamala have done the awful crimes that trump is doing, yes or no? If yes, justify it, anything short of that is tacit acknowledgement that she wouldn’t (and is exactly the kind of continued deflection I expect from this conversation) because you’d be able to do so if they were as close as you say. I keep hearing that they’re the same, yet aside from supporting Israel (to a bad, but objectively lesser extent), there’s no real argument to be made aside from purity politics. And playing purity politics is a good portion of why we are where we are.

    So many people love to push accelerationist methodologies that only hurt the most vulnerable while letting the worst among us take power, and that’s basically what this is. And it’s hiding behind the intellectually lazy “well, they’re all bad so it doesn’t matter” mentality that falls apart if you actually look past a surface level. I don’t like a lot of the shit that Kamala supported, but you’re fucking high if you think that Kamala at her worst would have been anywhere near this bad. And don’t take this as me supporting Kamala, she was not someone I liked, but she could at least be worked with more than what we have now and objectively would not be doing the shit that’s going on now.

    But hey, you and those like you stuck to your morals and made a difference in the world! Instead of getting someone who isn’t great but can be worked with, we chose to elect Nazis that are actively taking people off of the street, murdering civilians in the streets, and starting more wars that will lead to countless more deaths than if we had chosen to play electoral politics.




  • More name calling, and you still call me maga? Try reading my responses instead of letting emotion tell you what you think I wrote.

    Yes you’re fucking dumb if all your brain is capable of is black and white. Nice and easy, but not the way the world works. Good bombs thrown by bad people on other bad people’s heads and all.

    I’m not talking about retaliation either.

    Clearly, which is why you said some bombs are justified for defense, and included the nightclub bombing that started this massacre of Palestinians. You may not intend to speak that way, but the words you choose carries a message that other people are picking up on. Almost like a dog whistle.

    So if you have to tell me what I’m talking about and have to “paraphrase” me to make an actual point, then maybe, just maybe you don’t really have a point.

    The point I made was there before I paraphrased you, and I took exact quotes from you to make it.



  • issue here is that you just can’t wrap your head around the fact that there are actual terrorists that threaten actual, innocent (yes Israeli) people. People who didn’t choose to be born in Israel, kids, teenagers at a music festival.

    Where have I said that throwing bombs on civilian centres are good? You fucking dense motherfucker.

    Where the fuck are the bombs “protecting” the people at that music festival going, HMMMMM?

    It’s fucking hilarious to see you call someone else dumb when you can’t even think through the second order events that come from your statement. To paraphrase you:

    Where else do you think those bombs are going to fall? You fucking dense motherfucker.

    You’re talking about retaliation against civilians for the actions of terrorists, and those civilians are packed into dense areas by the people who drop the bombs on them.

    No one said you thought they were good, that’s your lazy deflection to not acknowledge that it’s happening. How can you not see this?

    Sees the slur

    Yeah, they’re arguing like a magat scumbag, not you…


  • Some dude who has lived under a rock and thinks a war of aggression is a good thing?

    Not everyone is completely up on current events, and no one said it was a good thing.

    Our words shape our thoughts. Call it like it is and don’t hide behind linguistics to soften the blow. Also, calling it a war is exactly what Israel wants, since calling it the genocide that it is makes them look all the more worse and keeps their genocidal actions in the forefront of the conversation.

    Just call it what it is and stop using words that diminish he horrors that Israel is doing. Or keep calling it a war and playing into the Israeli propaganda.