not to mention all the progress traps capitalism stepped into

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    To be fair, what we have in most of the world isn’t actually raw/pure capitalism, most of the time called Laissez-faire capitalism. Most of the world has a mixed economy of different capitalism implantations across the board in different areas: state/regulated/corporate capitalism and best of all crony capitalism.

    Regulated capitalism may actually work if we regulated it fairly and didn’t have megacorps writing the laws. But I don’t have that much faith in human nature to not keep fucking it up like we’ve done so many times.

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      Regulated capitalism may actually work if we regulated it fairly and didn’t have megacorps writing the laws.

      Here’s the thing…that’s true for literally every form of governance/economic planning you can conceive.

      The problem with socialismcapitalism|communism|anarchism will always be “the ones with all the de factode jure power”.

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      I’d go one further and note that environmentalism isn’t exactly endemic outside the capitalist sphere of influence. The USSR was dirty af. Chinese Communists were openly antagonistic to environmental movements until the early '00s, when air quality in Beijing got so bad that the national leadership was forced to reconcile with it.

      The real virtue of socialist policy is in it’s ability to adapt democratically, while capitalists are bound up in authoritarian modes of production. But if the public at-large doesn’t see the benefit of a good policy, there’s nothing inherent to the mode of production that makes it cleaner.

      Regulated capitalism may actually work if we regulated it fairly and didn’t have megacorps writing the laws.

      Regulated capitalism is just a tiger by the tail. As soon as you lose you grip, it eats you.

      The only way to keep mega-corps from writing policy is to abolish them. Otherwise, why wouldn’t wealthy people try to beg, browbeat, or business plot a state government?

      At some point, you need to eliminate the bourgeois class entirely. It’s us or them, over a long enough timeline.