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        He still managed to come out two years ahead of nearly everyone else.

        The US Senate is a shit place full of shit people. But you’re fooling yourself if you think Bernie Sanders is the reason we’re still sending billions a month through back channels to re-arm the Zionists in their crusade for a Greater Israel. There’s about 98 Senators ahead of him in line. 97 if Platner pulls it out in Maine.

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          No he didn’t. Lol, what crazy history rewrite are you on about Bernie was getting outflanked by milkquetoast centrists. The only reason he caved was because his position as a liberal zionist was getting completely unholdable.

          As for Nazi Platner, I’m not sure how the guy endorsed by Chuck “my job is to keep the left pro-Israel” Schumer is going to fight Israel but you’re doing apologism for Bernie’s Zionism so I won’t bother asking.

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            No he didn’t. Lol, what crazy history rewrite are you on about Bernie was getting outflanked by milkquetoast centrists. The only reason he caved was because his position as a liberal zionist was getting completely unholdable.

            He’s continued to endorse and prop up viable anti-zionist candidates with his popularity. You’re an idiot if you’re trying to discredit how much he’s helped grow socialist movements in the US.

            As for Nazi Platner, I’m not sure how the guy endorsed by Chuck “my job is to keep the left pro-Israel” Schumer is going to fight Israel but you’re doing apologism for Bernie’s Zionism so I won’t bother asking.

            Are you genuinely unaware of how critical Maine is for the Senate? Schumer can get away with not endorsing a Mayor, not a Dem in an incredibly important senete seat. Your the one getting duped by a grifter like Bad Empanada into supporting a Zionist smeer campaign.

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              He’s continued to endorse and prop up viable anti-zionist candidates with his popularity. You’re an idiot if you’re trying to discredit how much he’s helped grow socialist movements in the US.

              Did he endorse Maureen Galindo? Does he call for a full arms embargo on Israel? No you’re just lying.

              Schumer will literally throw the entire election for Israel. The Democrats did it in 2024 and they’ll do it again.

              Platner’s step-brother Seth Franzman is a hardcore Israeli genocide propagandist who does direct PR for Israel.

              Your the one getting duped by a grifter like Bad Empanada into supporting a Zionist smeer campaign.

              Oh no stupid me getting duped by facts instead of doing genocide apologia.

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                Are aware of what the term viable means?

                You’re certainly dead set on helping throw the Maine race to the actual Zionist Republican candidate

                The best you got is that he has a Zionist step-brother? So Platner must be also secretly Zionist?

                So his listed positions must be fake, actually.

                The smeer campaign, backed by actual Zionist money, must also be fake. And yet also secretly 4-D chess, since Platner’s secretly a Zionist. Despite being the only candidate with zero AIPAC money in the race. Great work, detective. Case solved.

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                  The best you got is that he has a Zionist step-brother?

                  A Zionist Israeli step-brother who Graham is very close with. Meaning his wife is likely Israeli dual-citizen as well. Combined with him not calling for a full weapons embargo on Israel and taking all the J-Street positions. Him being an unrepentant mass murderer (of brown people which you don’t care about of course) frequent liar and cheater on his wife. It’s a red flag minefield.

                  At this point you’d have a better shot defending Trump as the anti-war president in 2024 than Graham Platner.

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                    A Zionist Israeli step-brother who Graham is very close with.

                    Again you can’t attack his policies or the reality of the smeer campaign so instead you try to imply he’s secretly a Zionist. Do you have any idea how many anti-zionists that have Jewish Zionist family could say the same?

                    Meaning his wife is likely Israeli dual-citizen as well.

                    Great facts and logic here, just making shit up

                    Combined with him not calling for a full weapons embargo on Israel and taking all the J-Street positions

                    Again, what happened to your facts and logic? That’s demonstrably false. AIPAC Tracker includes J Street and all other israel lobbies, in case you didn’t check that.

                    Platner said his own views on Israel do not exactly align with J Street’s: “I do not let organizations dictate my opinions or politics to me. But I’m happy to work with folks who I think broadly, very much, share similar values and a similar outlook on the future.”

                    Asked to elaborate, he responded, “In order for the future to be one of safety and justice and decency, I firmly believe that everyone in the region, everyone who’s currently existing within, I would say, the security boundaries of what is currently the State of Israel — to include the occupied territories because I think that, at this point, it’s hard to say there isn’t any Israeli power in those areas — I think absolutely everyone needs to be given the exact same rights and freedoms.”

                    All very different from the J Street position.

                    Him being an unrepentant mass murderer (of brown people which you don’t care about of course) frequent liar and cheater on his wife. It’s a red flag minefield.

                    Oh so because I don’t think all veterans are Nazis, because I think people have the capacity to grow, because I know how critical anti-imperialist veterans have been in anti-war movements in this and other countries, because I hold politicians like Platners opposition who VOTED for these wars more accountable than the individual soldiers, many of which took the fucking poverty draft, and especially ones that came out of the experience being anti-war, I’M the one who actually hates brown people? What a fucking brain-dead take.

                    Go ahead, support Susan Collins, you’re already doing everything you can to help her. Surely she must align more with your views than Platner, because you clearly want her to win instead.

                    No clear consideration of the actual policies in play, or the opposition and their policies, or the ground game and grassroots support, or who’s launching the attack ads, or how critical Maine is as a senete seat, or really any aspect of the reality of moving electoral politics left in America. What is this? You call this activism? You call this productive?

                    I used to have you tagged as an ally, now you’re just a Bad Empanada Stan and I don’t get why because he’s accomplished literally nothing. At least Mike from PA has produced actual progress in his own state. Both Mike and Hasan also promote and donate to viable left flank candidates. By why consider listening to people who are actually putting in the work to grow the left movement in America when you could instead listen to an Australian in Argentina who’s made it clear that he’s only making his content for the money (which he did without question when he and Hasan were both on Noah Samson’s live-stream.)