• Jaimesmith@lemmy.world
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    Not perfect recovery, but still a powerful reminder that “too late” isn’t always true. Stopping the damage is step one.

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    4 hours ago

    So I’m not bothered by the inconsistent scale… but why is there a dinosaur peeking through the bottom of the 1889 column?!

  • tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    Each buffalo in the first picture represents 242,914 buffalo. Which means the last picture would be about 1/10th of a bison, and the middle one would be just the tip of a horn.

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      Each buffalo in the second picture represents 75 bison. By that metric, the first picture almost comes close to representing the third number. But the third picture just doesn’t fit here, and the first number is so huge you’d need at least 2000 times picture one to represent it.

  • cddlhssy@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    Settlers killed buffalo to force indigenous people into the reservation system. It was a big part of the genocide here, worth looking into if you get the chance.

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      5 hours ago

      This is a buffalo:

      They are not the same animal as American bison, which are also not European bison for that matter.

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        Isn’t that a water buffalo? Not the same animal as the American Bison (commonly known as the American Buffalo.) I think once they have a 200 year old city named for them, you just have to accept that that’s what they’re called.

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          Isn’t that a water buffalo?

          or as you woul call it a water bison…

          Also the city was not on land, which had American bison, so no it is not named after the animal.

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    I don’t know the history of bison population. From the image, I assume there used to be a ton of bison. But then a science experiment involving velociraptors went awry, and only a small group of bison were left alive. Then those bison made an uprising against the velociraptor-experiments and invaded their area, allowing their population to grow again.

    How far off am I?

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    What is the genetic diversity of the bison? Are they are going to be very inbred soon and die out?

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    17 hours ago

    TIL There are 30,000 free roaming bison but there are 500,000 total including privately owned and commercial herds.

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      Yep. They are also far better for the land they graze on than cattle, as they evolved here, and so they generally eat only what they should and don’t overgraze. The meat is also far leaner and healthier than beef. We really should stop raising cattle and raise bison. The biggest issue is even “domesticated” bison are far more wild and dangerous to raise than the cattle we have bred to be docile. So risk averse ranchers are not interested.

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        Yeah, American bison don’t take well to husbandry, simply because they’re aggressive. They’re territorial and have bad eyesight, so their first inclination when they see a human-sized blob is usually to attack.

        But yes, if you’re going to eat red meat, bison is much better than beef. It’s so lean that natives could dry it and pound it into powder for trail snacking. You can’t do that with modern beef, because it has too much fat. Even beef jerky tends to be pretty greasy.

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      22 hours ago

      Logarithmically scaled image. I’ll leave the determination of the base of the Log as an exercise for the viewer.

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        That’s what I thought, so I investigated.

        The base of the log can be accounted for by a constant scale factor, because, for example, if n is the number of bison,

        log10(n)
        = log10(e^ln(n))
        = ln(n) log10(e) and log10(e) is a constant.
        This change of base is a linear scale on the logs.

        Hence we can just take log 10 of the numbers of bison, and scale the answer by a constant factor which is log10(correct base), getting
        7.778, 2.477 and 4.477
        Scale that by about 2 = log10(100) to match the 5 bison in the middle pictogram, and there should be
        16, 5, 9 bison on a logarithmic scale.

        The diagram is also wrong if it’s logarithmic.

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    Because they finally caged the velociraptor in the middle image?

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    The decision to stop was required, but a ton of work was done to help the population rebound. What kind of misguided message is this trying to send?

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      It’s trying to tell people who think it’s too much work to bother that it’s not. I do it all the time, like when I have to wash the dishes and I tell myself “I’ll just wash one dish” because I know if I do that I’ll be a lot more motivated to continue, but if I keep looking at the whole problem before I start, I’ll be too overwhelmed to do anything at all.

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        That’s about how I read it. Sometimes you don’t have a solution to fix a problem, but ceasing to make it worse is a valuable course of action in itself. The bison aren’t back the way they were, but they’re not extinct either.

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      Sure, the bison population is 0.05% of what it once was. And now that we’re not actively attempting to extinct them, everything is hunky dory and no more work is needed.

      I don’t know how else to interpret this. It sounds like the Bison Society would rather be a society dedicated to literal anything else. The Kick the Can Down the Road Society, perhaps.