• Signtist@bookwyr.me
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    Eh, I support my local record store. Lady’s just trying to sell good music at fair prices while paying her workers a good wage. I’d hardly call her Petty Bourgeois just because she’s trying to give my community a better option than Amazon for physical media; she’s barely making ends meet at that. Pretty sure I make more money than her just working a normal office job.

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    3 days ago

    Serious question, where are we supposed to buy things we need? Big business is bad, small business is bad, what’s left?

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      That isn’t what supporting small business means in this context. The support of small business is like when your politicians say things that they are the backbone of the country and they need tax breaks, more lenient regulation or subsidy. In the US they often subsidize small business owners like during COVID with PPP while letting their population suffer with no (or a one time) subsidy, no subsidized health care, no housing subsidy.

      It is realizing that business owners and entrepreneurs are not your friends, they are a class of people that exist to exploit your labor and you need to organize to over throw the economic system that benefits them over you. Communists are asking you to support your needs and the needs of people like you over the needs of people who exploit you.

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        Ok, but I’m not seeing people saying that on here. I’m seeing a lot of people doing the big business < small business < co-op attitude, but not much of the fellating small business owners

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    I dont understand why you hate petty bourgois so much. They work and own the means of production, so they arent bourgeois since they dont exploit workers and they arent workers because they arent exploited by the bourgeois.

    If by petty bourgeois you mean small business owners that hire other workers to exploit then they have become bourgeois, not petty bourgeois.

    At least thats how I understand it.

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      No the petty bourgeoisie often do hire workers to supplement their own labour. The bourgeoisie own the major means of production and live by extracting surplus value from wage labor, they do not need to work themselves. Petty bourgeoisie own small-scale means of production (a shop, a workshop, a plot of land) and still rely on their own labor, however often employing workers to supplement their labour.

      In periods of socialist momentum, the petty bourgeoisie frequently become the most zealous allies of reaction because their precarious ownership of small-scale means of production places them in direct fear of expropriation and descent into the proletariat. Unlike the bourgeoisie, who may calculate accommodation with a rising revolutionary order, the petty bourgeois sees their individual livelihood, status, and slim hope of advancement threatened by collective transformation; this material anxiety drives them to support reactionary and often fascist forces that promise to defend private property and social “order” against the working class. Their reaction is not an ideological accident but class instinct: when the choice appears to be between losing their small capital or joining the stable exploiters, many choose reaction striving to join the exploiters.

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        No way in hell you never ever wanted to sell anything to anyone ever.

        Let’s say, sell your own art in the internet, or perhaps sell games to earn some cash.

        This is what i’m talking about, this is also creating your own business, a digital one but a business like all others.

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          I legit have never wanted to sell anything. I don’t even like selling my time, but I gotta cause I don’t feel like living in the woods.

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            Yea, you don’t want to sell your time to the oppressive woodlands. Forcing you to gather food and build shelter or die. That’s just like capitalism.

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            At the least flexible perspective, not really. But wanting to live off something you sell absolutely is.

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          I’d honestly rather not sell that sort of thing. The only reason I would is so I could spend my working hours making that and still be able to afford to eat. If that wasn’t an issue, I’d rather give my work away for free.

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      Unsurprisingly, I’m a communist. Collectivized production and distribution along a common, scientific plan is the way to go.

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      Engineering spirit >>>> enterpreneurship spirit. I prefer to put all my energy into solving problems for the masses as the end goal, not maximize profit for the few as the end goal with solving problems almost as a side effect. Nothing suppresses engineering spirit more than enterpreneurship spirit. The amount of times complete, sustainable solutions get shot down by enterpreneurs in favour of partial, temporary solutions designed to manufacture dependency on the business is disgusting.