My main thing with solar is I wish they’d put panels over existing parking lots or large buildings. This is a thing that is already done in some places, this is a solved engineering problem, but in my area anywhere a solar farm has sprung up it’s been a field that previously either grew crops or was undeveloped woods. And I know the reason someone’s going to come back with: To install solar awnings over an existing Wal Mart parking lot, you need to tear up the asphalt to install power lines, build the actual structure, permitting is probably more expensive, and you have to have some or all of the parking lot down for awhile during construction restricting the use of the store. Meanwhile, clear cut 10 acres of forest and you get lumber to sell to a paper mill.
I disagree, only thinking we should cover EVERYTHING - any human building / structure etc should have solar all over. yeah, it’s not cheap to build them, but we should stop playing fuckaround and get it done, it’ll be cheaper to do it today than tomorrow.
They can, but when you have any alternative, Agrivoltaics aren’t very appealing.
You frequently end up deliberately setting up solar panels in suboptimal ways to let the plants get the light. So you end up having fewer panels and those panels not able to be used to their full potential at a given site.
So I absolutely vote for parking lots and rooftops to be the first order of business. Yes, Agrivoltaics as it comes to it if the alternative is losing cropland, but it seems like we have a long way to go before we have to make such compromises.
Also, can’t forget that those concerns come back when maintaining the panels. Along with the additional precautions needed to account for foot/other traffic.
My main thing with solar is I wish they’d put panels over existing parking lots or large buildings. This is a thing that is already done in some places, this is a solved engineering problem, but in my area anywhere a solar farm has sprung up it’s been a field that previously either grew crops or was undeveloped woods. And I know the reason someone’s going to come back with: To install solar awnings over an existing Wal Mart parking lot, you need to tear up the asphalt to install power lines, build the actual structure, permitting is probably more expensive, and you have to have some or all of the parking lot down for awhile during construction restricting the use of the store. Meanwhile, clear cut 10 acres of forest and you get lumber to sell to a paper mill.
I disagree, only thinking we should cover EVERYTHING - any human building / structure etc should have solar all over. yeah, it’s not cheap to build them, but we should stop playing fuckaround and get it done, it’ll be cheaper to do it today than tomorrow.
But re: fields - they can do double duty via agrivoltaics - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrivoltaics
They can, but when you have any alternative, Agrivoltaics aren’t very appealing.
You frequently end up deliberately setting up solar panels in suboptimal ways to let the plants get the light. So you end up having fewer panels and those panels not able to be used to their full potential at a given site.
So I absolutely vote for parking lots and rooftops to be the first order of business. Yes, Agrivoltaics as it comes to it if the alternative is losing cropland, but it seems like we have a long way to go before we have to make such compromises.
even if it improves the farming?
https://www.nature.com/articles/s44264-025-00121-w
https://www.energy.gov/cmei/systems/articles/buzzing-around-solar-pollinator-habitat-under-solar-arrays
https://www.asce.org/publications-and-news/civil-engineering-source/article/2026/03/02/agrivoltaics-how-combining-solar-panels-and-farming-delivers-big-benefits
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshpearce/2025/11/15/why-farmers-are-shielding-their-crops-with-solar-panels/
Also, can’t forget that those concerns come back when maintaining the panels. Along with the additional precautions needed to account for foot/other traffic.
It sucks though.