I believe the community had expressed a lot of valuable ideas here, so I will keep the post. But I am locking the thread because it’s just not information given in good faith. That’s not to say that the points are all wrong, these can be debated. And we did debate. But the infographic itself is border to being just propaganda against a distro that serves well to a lot of users (this is a fact! even if me or you think those users could be served better.)
why is this infographic AI generated and where are the pixels
I find it rather interesting that the same author wrote a new article about how to install Ubuntu 24.04 LTS the day after writing about Ubuntu’s trust problem, but without mentioning the previous article or any point he previously made…
“author”
I’ve come to learn that it might be AI writing these
100%… I just had a look through the other articles too and they reek of AI.
Im pretty sure these articles are written with AI. He already uses AI for generating images for the articles too. Like this paragraph from one of the articles… Who the fudge writes like this?
Text in image:
This single question filters out script writers from script engineers. Most beginners write scripts that silently fail. Production scripts at companies like Stripe or Palantir use strict error handling from line one.
Honestly, I use Ubuntu and everything mentioned here are non issues. Except forcing Snaps when using apt.
I’ve never noticed ads for Ubuntu Pro in my terminal so it can’t be that intrusive.
When I install software, I use the KDE software center that let’s me pick which one I want to use between Deb, Snaps or Flatpak.
Firefox snap doesn’t start as slow as mentioned. At least not anymore.
The malware issue can happen with flatpaks as well and even native packages. In fact there have been more security issues introduced in more bleeding edge distros like Arch and Fedora that didn’t affect Ubuntu. So…
Anyway. It’s really not that big a deal except for forcing Snaps when using apt. But that can be disabled too. So again, not really a big deal.
The ads in terminal show when you use ssh or only command line for the system. It happens when you log in so you mainly see it if you use Ubuntu server or use ssh to get into your computer a lot.
Maybe it’s because I’m using Kubuntu and not the pure Ubuntu? I swear I’ve never seen those in my terminals. Even when I ctrl-alt-f3 or ssh.
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Company gonna company. Switch back to Debian and realize most of what Ubuntu did was copy Debian and allow for non free drivers.
Ubuntu was always just a broken Debian with marketing. Just like Mandrake and Red Hat. Except it was successful marketing this time.
There were a few good things. LTS and PPA.
automatically attaching snaps to apt is pretty much the one reason why I’ll never use Ubuntu. and now I find out here that they put damn ads in the terminal for “Ubuntu Pro”? oh get fucked Canonical.
Friends don’t let Friends install Ubuntu.
My main home server runs Ubuntu - I installed it 15-20 years ago and it’s grown into a monster. I’ve been slowly documenting everything so I can reinstall with Debian. Have to up the priority of that project.
Debian is so nice as a server OS. It’s also a great alternative for WSL if you’re forced to use a Windows computer.
I already run Debian on my desktop and 3 other small servers. I just haven’t moved over my main one yet because of the complexity, and procrastination.
An old PC of mine as been promoted to becoming my first personal server ever and I went for Debian without UI. I’ve dealt with Ubuntu servers at work for a while. For me Debian felt so incredibly lightweight yet so familiar. I heartily recommend the move for a home server.
I’ve been slowly documenting everything so I can reinstall with Debian
This works much better if you document into an Ansible playbook. Although some tasks will probably have to be adjusted between the distros.
Even Microsoft hasn’t put ads in the terminal I think.
Shh, don’t give them ideas 🙏
And they’ve tied the dependency tree together such that you can’t disable them without entirely breaking updates.
I left Ubuntu some years ago because I wanted apt install a package and it got hijacked by snaps without warning.
I left when they dropped Gnome 2 for Unity. I’ve been using Mint (with Cinnamon) ever since.
Compared to what’s going on on Windows these are such non issues, and yet people are so dramatic about it. I installed Kubuntu almost 15 years ago and I’m on the same install still (going through several PCs with the same disk/image). Disabling snap took me 5 minutes many years ago and was never an issue, another 2 minutes for disabling the Ubuntu Pro message.
Would it be better if these didn’t exist? Of course. But when comparing distros, this wouldn’t even be worth putting on a list of pros and cons. Is another distro better for your needs? Great. Is Ubuntu better for your needs? Also great, and surely if it is, then it taking 7 minutes longer to setup is not even a factor worth considering?
If a friend had needs that I know Ubuntu fits best, I wouldn’t “not let them do it” for some ideological reasons, I’d just tell them to disable snap if they are not aware of it.
This is the silly distro infighting that makes people avoid Linux.
“Friends don’t let friends install hyped flavor of the week distros like CachyOS, popOS and Bazzite that will be out of the vogue in 3 years, instead of something that just works” is what I could’ve said just as well, but how about let people use what they want?
Thanks for this. I started Linux with Ubuntu, just because being the most popular distro, I figured it would most likely to be compatible with everything. I was just about to make a post asking why the Linux community dunks on Ubuntu, but this graphic explains a lot
If anyone else would rather read text as text: https://www.linuxteck.com/ubuntu-trust-problem-2026/
Thanks :)
Appreciate it as a mobile user!
Ironically, just read an article recently about this exact issue.
The article from LinuxTeck is AI generated. Not unlikely the itsfoss was used as inspiration or whatever since ot was posted the week before.
No prompt. No warning. No consent.
This was not a bug. It was a deliberate product decision.
Yeah… too many rhetorical devices. A human writer would notice that it’s getting a bit excessive.
The article: https://www.linuxteck.com/ubuntu-trust-problem-2026/
Thanks. I have to wonder if people became allergic to posting text that can be resized to my screen.
Although the site is also shit, on the phone the text column is like twenty characters wide.
the malware one happens in most repos at some point, but the rest is why i dont use ubuntu.
Not this kind of malware specifically. Their snap repo has a policy of allowing fully automatic app submission as long as the app is sandboxed. This led to multiple people submiting modified crypto wallet apps under the branding of the original trusted devs, without any challenge on Ubuntu’s part. You could also put up a Librewolf version that leaks all the passwords you type in, or a Signal without encryption - ✨ endless creativity ✨. This specific attack is harder on Flathub as all apps have to be checked by the moderation team, and they should ask question if your Librewolf package is built from your own repo.
Yes, that is not just OS repos. There have been plenty of cases with PIP and NPM hosting malware.
I don’t understand why go though all the trouble of leaving windows, which let’s be honest is not as friction free as Lemmy likes to claim, and then land on Ubuntu.
I have to thank them for the free DVDs tho, they opened the world of Linux for me as a kid.
I left Windows because I didn’t want to update to 11. I went to Ubuntu simply because I used it once 10 years ago and it seemed ok. So far my experience has been great. I have 0 technical skills but I was able to make everything work, I only had to google about flat-packs. My husband is technical so he set up access to our home system. I am not moving from Ubuntu now as I have everything set up just as i like it and everything I want/need just works. Again, I am not technical so everything I need is just a browser, email, discord, and steam.
Honestly, if someone I know would ask for a Linux recommendation I would recommend Ubuntu. Simply for how simple it is that you never have to touch a command line or terminal and still just use the basic apps you want. I think its an amazing low bar, low effort entry to Linux and there’s nothing wrong with that.
That’s understandable, you expected Ubuntu to be simple and it was, you had a need any it was fulfilled.
The thing is, any other debian would be as simple as Ubuntu. The “simplicity” comes from having all the programs already installed not from being more or less technical.
The best part of Ubuntu was improving Debian. In the beginning, Debian was a bit ugly and difficult. Ubuntu was competition, and perhaps resources (IDK) directly or indirectly. Debian is much easier to use than it was when Ubuntu was new.
Ubuntu is taking the RedHat approach (over complicating so that one must buy the support).
Why is fedora a tank top?
Is that what that is? I thought it was a grocery bag.
I think? Neither makes sense.
Yea, I dunno either. Would be nice if the image had a few more pixels… I tried zooming in and it didn’t help. My head was like, “it’s an ikea bag… because Fedora is all about Flatpak. And all the furniture at ikea is flat pack.” It’s a long logic trek I had to go to get there to be honest. Most of the others don’t make much sense either. Debian is some little dragon guy? Arch is a bow an arrow? Is is possible this image is an AI generated summary of the original article and it’s just guessing at what the logo should be for these different distros?
I suspect it’s just nonsense from the AI generator.
pretty sure i ripped out snap by the short hairs. snap firefox was too buggy so switched to mozilla version. btw, i fucking hate apparmor defaults. it’s gone too.
root@meh:~# snap
Command ‘snap’ not found, but can be installed with: apt install snapd
