Sure, you get an A for answering the question, but my point was that the hate they get today on Linux is misguided because people only have vague or non-specific complaints.

Not learning from the past means repeating the same mistakes. I see little evidence that NVidia’s overall approach changed. It’s always that everyone has to adapt to their way of doing things and rarely that NVidia seek collaboration first. That’s why it has taken years and three entirely different memory management technologies.

With NVidia it’s always “This is the last piece of technology and then everything will be perfect.” ExplicitSync is only the latest episode. Now that ExplicitSync is there, compatibility on Linux is still a crapshoot with NVidia.

When Nvidia announced that they were going to move the proprietary parts of their driver into the GPU firmware, and open source the kernel module, there was a lot of hate about how they’re being assholes for not releasing the whole thing as open source, relying on proprietary blobs, etc. Yet that’s stupid, because it’s literally the exact same thing AMD and Intel do for their much beloved drivers.

Where is the closed source user space of Intel and AMD drivers? It doesn’t exist because they use Mesa for the best possible compatibility. NVidia don’t. I’ve read comments by people bashing the recent Baldur’s Gate 3 Linux release and being full of graphics glitches. Then they list their hardware as proof how great it is and they all have NVidia GPUs.

I didn’t know games could choose to be made by new developers

No, game’s aren’t alive and cannot choose anything. The higher-ups at publisher and IP owner Paradox Interactive can, however.

Usually these things happen at Microsoft when they shut down studios, like what happened with Essemble Studios (Age of Empires, Halo Wars) and Double Helix Games (Killer Instinct).

Afaik, their drivers support GBM today so it’s kind of outdated.

Well, of course. I literally said this was a fight over years, so of course in the past. You wanted to one example of why the hate and I gave you one example of why the hate.

Can you give an example?

Trying to push three different technologies years after AMD, Intel, Mesa, … agreed on GBM.

In case you aren’t aware, Nvidia was the main driving force behind getting explicit sync support into Wayland, which is a feature that greatly improves performance for modern graphics APIs.

In case you’re not aware but it took years of fighting NVidia for them to finally conform to standards and conventions agreed by everyone when NVidia didn’t care to participate.

The issues may be totally valid but yeah, Nvidia can be expected to have patches ready.

Looks similar to the Google ffmpeg situation where Google AI file bug reports, bury the developers, and don’t send any patches at all.

Patches welcome

And yes, they are a monopoly in gaming.

The biggest PC games aren’t on Steam. Minecraft isn’t, Fortnite isn’t, Roblox isn’t. Because of Fortnite alone, the installed base of EGS is massive, the people just choose to buy their non-Epic games somewhere else.

they are a PC gaming company, period.

And a hypothetical Steam Phone would be an ARM PC, dockable for a full PC experience but mobil use could be similar to XPeria Play. It’s not a huge leap from Steam Deck formfactor-wise.

Not even speculation, just shitposting.

Valve confirmed that there are more ARM devices in the making. The type of device is speculation.

SteamDeck doesn’t run Android, it runs full Linux.

SteamOS on Frame is compatible with Android apps because it ships Waydroid. When Valve contributions to Waydroid surfaced months ago, I already speculated that it’s probably a porting aid for Quest games to Deckard but as soon as the tech is there (which it is now), you can bet there is someone at Valve flashing SteamOS onto a Pixel phone or so, just tinker with it.

So not “on purpose”

Inventing and implementing non-standard protocol messages to initiate the display is 100% on purpose. It would be easier to just source an off the shelf board and merely design casing around it.

Seems excessive when you can just as well use RustDesk.

Homebrew could provide their own casks of FOSS applications, compiled on their infrastructure and signed by their key. It’s kinda what F-Droid does on phones.

A friend of mine buys every Pokemon game and described this (tounge on cheek) as a compulsive mental illness of theirs.

Rich people are only socialist until someone tries to redistribute their wealth. It’s all an act.

Sure. That’s why I wrote “mostly pointless” but the runtime stack is self-contained in Steam and proprietary games are compiled by the developer anyway. There are limits to what CachyOS/Gentoo/… can do.

This is only relevant for people exclusively running open source games from the distro’s repository.

Steam games (incl. the Windows games on top of Proton) run inside Steam Linux Runtime, a container based on Debian 11 that is identical on every distribution. Use whatever distribution you like but the optimizations of CachyOS are mostly pointless.

Somehow with XWayland enabled, the app still specifically demanded an actual X11 session

I guess it’s because Horizon can probably act as a host to control the desktop and as client to control other desktop. The latter should work with XWayland, the former not. As I wrote: RustDesk works just fine. What RustDesk doesn’t currently offer with Wayland is unattended access. The desktop that’s about to be remote controlled gets a question to confirm remote access, at least under Gnome.

My somewhat educated guess is that it’s more likely that Gnome’s permission system gets a “always allow remote access” button before a X11 application gets a Wayland port when the decade until now a Wayland port was no priority.

Heck, I had trouble installing remote desktop for my work (they use Omnissa Horizon) on Fedora, because the app still exclusively supports X11, and Fedora removed it in version 42.

X11 applications still run under XWayland. The X11 session is gone, not all compatibility with X11 applications. Steam wouldn’t run if complete removal was the case.

What’s Omnissa’s stance there? Will they port their application? Will they hire a developer to maintain a X11 session?

ditching X11 will still be catastrophic for many users’ workflows.

Are these users hiring a developer to maintain the X11 session? If not, they need to adapt then and go with the times and migrate to other solutions. RustDesk supports Wayland just fine, for example.

So standard Audi driver cruising speed.

I’m using Linux because I like þe control; if I wanted a nanny OS, I’d use a Mac.

I’m currently trying to read your comment on macOS and whatever your X11 system does somehow glitches some characters and swallow words? You like to be in control?