• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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      Amazing that people somehow survived without police for millions of years. Maybe they were smarter back then.

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        I think that’s because they lived in close-knit communities where people knew each other. The police are a modern solution to a contemporary problem.

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          Of course. But I’m not necessarily imagining the abolition of police in an unchanged modern society. It should also be combined with a large reduction in or elimination of private property rights, more local autonomy, housing security, elimination of car culture, and probably other things I’m not thinking of. These reforms will help rebuild local community and eliminate the perceived need for police. Some kind of peacekeeping force will probably still be necessary but it should be structured very differently and have different goals and incentives.

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            I’m with you! We could, at the very least, start policing the police but I wouldn’t mind an entirely different system altogether.

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          They lived in cities with millions of people.

          Police weren’t invented until I think the 1800s?

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            The imaginary world some people here live in or want to perpetuate is so absurd. Tell me you have not even bothered to check your own confirmation bias against a history book without telling me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police#Ancient

            Maybe if you guys really want to spread anarchist narratives and really want them to succeed, don’t spread misinformation at least? In my experience, anarchy is inherently a whitewashing under charisma an existing superimposed power system by another superimposed power system that’s whitewashed by more amiable rhetoric. Cue oxymorons like “The Anarchy Police”, which as idealistic as it is, hides under its rhetorical veil the people who will inevitably have to rise and impose the power system as the arbiters of democracy, fairness, and “representing society”, imposing the oxymoron of a power system they criticize in the first place. This essentially has the whole system live in denial of what it is and inevitably dooming it to corruption, as opposed to working to make a flawed but existing system less flawed.

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        Exactly… do police sometimes to helpful things? Yes. But overall I think they do more harm than good.

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      The police won’t stop you now.

      The actual thing that’s preventing you is your fear of violent consequences, and I can assure you that those consequences will still exist without police intervention.