Jus cannot believe libs still think they’re just a “defense” organization LMBO

  • subversive_dev@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    Hello 'worlder, welcome to the side of the fediverse outside of the NATO media bubble.

    If you want to know the truth, I will lay down a trail. If you literally respond to this by calling me a Russian troll then you are a joke. If the Russians could actually do informational warfare as well as the West none of us would be having this conversation.

    The 2014 coup was orchestrated by the United States and brought a radical Nazi faction called the Banderites into power in Ukraine.

    The Banderites spent the next 7 years conducting a genocidal campaign in the Donbass against ethnolinguistic Russians.

    Over those 7 years the West sabotaged and undermined three separate peace agreements, known as Minsk one and two and Istanbul. These facts have even been documented in the western press. Look up Angela Merkel conceding that the only point of the Minsk agreements was to stall and rearm the Ukrainians, and look up how Boris Johnson sabotaged the Istanbul agreement.

    Now that that history is out of the way we can talk about the present day. The Russians are completely dominant on the battlefield. The Ukrainian military is in an advanced stage of collapse. Despite this, the Ukrainians and Europeans are continuing to sabotage peace talks by making completely absurd demands (as the party that is LOSING BADLY). The reason this is happening is because the point of the war from the beginning was to weaken Russia. Unfortunately for them this might be the greatest backfire in human history. They are extremely unable to cope with this, hence the hysteria and nonsense.

      • subversive_dev@lemmy.ml
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        1 day ago

        Do you literally believe that?

        Can you make a cogent counter agreement to any single thing I said in my comment?

        • Corridor8031@lemmy.ml
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          23 hours ago

          Do you literally believe that?

          yes

          Can you make a cogent counter agreement to any single thing I said in my comment?

          for genocide one https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11185-022-09258-5

          But i dont think there is any point in doing that. It would be the same as making arguements against flat earthers, moon landing deniers or anti-vaxxers. It will just keep going, there will always be another agrument no matter how many you debunk. Because lying is easier. Always possible to claim it was “secret” or whatever. And then once in a while something said will be correct, which will be taken as proof that it all was correct. Pointless to argue with these groups.

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          9 hours ago

          One cogent argument is that everything you said sounds really dumb

          Edit: the messages have been edited I don’t remember responding to the above comment unless it was one of the deleted ones