• 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    the real problem is when those murderers come home and feel sad. Will somebody think of the poor state sanctioned murderers!!

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        3 hours ago

        The only thing that seems to curb their baser impulses is the haunting memory of the horror they committed.

        It’s not the soldier with PTSD who should scare you. It’s the sociopath who came back seemingly normal.

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          52 minutes ago

          It’s not the soldier with PTSD who should scare you. It’s the sociopath who came back seemingly normal

          Chris Kyle

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        Agree. If the system is codified to allow them to get off absolutely free, in terms of legal culpability, at least they get to pay in some other form. Compared to their victims being, ya know, dead, a somewhat-modicum of eternal torment seems reasonable.

      • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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        16 hours ago

        people downvoting you can fuck off.

        In a just world they would face consequences for their actions. instead the closest thing they get is to “feel sad about it” then the whole state bends over backwards to coddle them and make them feel good.

        Fuck off, I hope the guilt of their actions haunts them till their dying breath. They choose to enlist when they were legal adults. if an 18 year old gets drunk and runs over some children no one would care about them. but if an 18 year old signs up to kill children in the other side of the world it’s ok? they are then called heroes and given discounts?

        yhea, we can vent on how the states encourages it, but by the end they willingly signed up to murder people. what did they expect?

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          14 minutes ago

          Wishing harm on the internet is massively pathetic.

          Please go touch some grass you desperately need it.

        • KT-TOT@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          14 hours ago

          For many it is their only hope of escaping poverty or owning property. “Convenient” for the state that this is the case.

          Desperate people are willing to do horrible things. To what extent are they to blame for being exploited? The state’s policies allow and encourage poverty, destitution, and desperation, then exploit it.

          I don’t think one is just or even absolved by their exploitation, but I can have empathy.

          The state doesn’t treat veterans much better than dogs. Some get to leave with work experience, savings, and education, others get to crawl in the streets until they starve.

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            14 hours ago

            We can talk all about that. but the moment they agree to play the government game and make their lives better by destroying lives somewhere else they are now part of that system and not it’s victims. Same with all those ICE agents.

            Have empathy with them until they decide to be a class traitor. If it was up to me they would be in jail to mellow with their PTSD. not in the general public.

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              11 hours ago

              Same as joining a gang. Participate in violence and you get a roof over your head and maybe a couple meals. Wether or not it makes them “bad people” or “class traitors” doesn’t change the pressures and incentives at play. There are few alternatives and fewer viable ones.

        • GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          15 hours ago

          then the whole state bends over backwards to coddle them and make them feel good.

          You should do stand-up. That’s pretty funny.

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            15 hours ago

            How often it calls them heroes? or gives them healthcare (still shitty because it’s America, but more healthcare than the general population)? or makes it socially unacceptable to criticise them, like I’m doing now and bootlickers are downvoting men and complaining.

            fuck em all, you know how easy it is not to get PTSD from murdering people in poor countries? it’s super easy, just don’t sign up to kill people in poor countries.

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        16 hours ago

        The PTSD is part of why they have the join the military mentality.