I’ve heard these beds are actually quite effective at helping you sleep and then wake up more naturally.
But they have wrapped entirely local events (it’s all just timers, folks) behind a cloud-exclusive subscription and the product is useless on a sunny day like we had yesterday.
They’re enormously expensive and the subscription serves no useful purpose other than to line the pockets of the investors.
I have a strict rule of no cloud dependency in my house. Otherwise, I’d be interested - if the price was remotely reasonable.
You can get other versions than eight sleep. I had an insert for my pillow. Can’t remember the brand though. It ran locally via an app and Bluetooth. I ended up returning within the trial period, due to it forming bubbles in the circulation, which woke me up
Huh? It’s the exact same thing as any other electronic in any home assistant smart house. Put firmware on it that you control. Why would you need to do anything about it at night.
Sometimes you get a new dream machine that has internal ipv6 disabled by default and only your matter over WiFi lights stop working, but you think they’re thread, which shouldn’t leak ipv6 past the otbr. So you work on getting them reconnected to the Internet by removing your firewall policy that kept them local, but Ubiquity now has Zones as well, and your dumbass did a little of each. Plus, for some reason, they’ll negotiate an ipv4 and drop off the network, and there’s no easy way to identify a bulb by it’s IP or mac address. It’s not like the Mac addresss is printed on the bulb, so you try to judge by signal strength. But then your buddy who’s been helping you troubleshoot for the past couple hours tells you to link him the lights from your order history, so only then do you realize they’re matter over WiFi and not matter over thread, and enabling ipv6 locally does the trick. Now you’ve just got a set up your automations again, because you had the bright idea to put actual switches in the walls that depend on home assistant, and the automations don’t know the new entities so none of your wall switches work until that’s fixed. And eventually you’ll get around to reinstating that firewall policy to block them from the Internet, but not today because you’ve spent long enough for one day on fighting with your light bulbs.
You don’t fluff your pillows or make your bed or wash the linens? Bed stuff needs daily maintenance; hopefully flashing the firmware on your smart pillow wouldn’t be daily, but you want to keep the bed bugs away, Shirley?
I don’t do the first two, and I wash them weekly. My home assistant stuff never needs maintenance, so no I’d wager that if I set it up locally it would work fine if the software was stable. But you said that’s when you’d do maintenance, at bedtime, which is also not when you’d be making the bed or fluffing the pillows or washing the sheets.
I bought a brand new one of these on Marketplace because I really need a cooler bed, but I’ll be damned if I get sucked into a subscription for a fucking bed!! The hack i used was a workaround where you setup your own server that will set the bed temperature automatically at bedtime and can update it once again at some point during the morning (so you can wake up to a warm bed, for instance). It worked alright, but then the main unit crapped out after 2 weeks.
It’s actually not the pump, but the power supply that crapped out. I kept the unit because I’m sure it’s just a PC power supply, but I haven’t taken the time to crack it open. Oddly enough, there’s no information online about what the part number might be.
Expensive but super worth it. Honestly best improvement to my sleep ever. More so than any new mattress or pillow or sheets or anything else has ever done.
That sounds wonderful, to have an air gapped smart bed on open source software. Just like having the perfect nuclear missile launch system on Windows XP made by clever engineers. No updates, just dreams.
I’ve heard these beds are actually quite effective at helping you sleep and then wake up more naturally.
But they have wrapped entirely local events (it’s all just timers, folks) behind a cloud-exclusive subscription and the product is useless on a sunny day like we had yesterday.
They’re enormously expensive and the subscription serves no useful purpose other than to line the pockets of the investors.
I have a strict rule of no cloud dependency in my house. Otherwise, I’d be interested - if the price was remotely reasonable.
You can get other versions than eight sleep. I had an insert for my pillow. Can’t remember the brand though. It ran locally via an app and Bluetooth. I ended up returning within the trial period, due to it forming bubbles in the circulation, which woke me up
I just hammer my brain with melatonin on top of alcohol, weed and extreme fatigue. It’s nature’s remedy for sleeplessness.
You can flash your own firmware if you want.
“sorry honey just a bit longer, I’m in the process of flashing the bed, we can go to bed soon…god damn sig faults!”
Ah, bed bugs.
Huh? It’s the exact same thing as any other electronic in any home assistant smart house. Put firmware on it that you control. Why would you need to do anything about it at night.
Because that’s when you have the time to do the maintenance.
Why would you need to do maintenance at all?
Sometimes you get a new dream machine that has internal ipv6 disabled by default and only your matter over WiFi lights stop working, but you think they’re thread, which shouldn’t leak ipv6 past the otbr. So you work on getting them reconnected to the Internet by removing your firewall policy that kept them local, but Ubiquity now has Zones as well, and your dumbass did a little of each. Plus, for some reason, they’ll negotiate an ipv4 and drop off the network, and there’s no easy way to identify a bulb by it’s IP or mac address. It’s not like the Mac addresss is printed on the bulb, so you try to judge by signal strength. But then your buddy who’s been helping you troubleshoot for the past couple hours tells you to link him the lights from your order history, so only then do you realize they’re matter over WiFi and not matter over thread, and enabling ipv6 locally does the trick. Now you’ve just got a set up your automations again, because you had the bright idea to put actual switches in the walls that depend on home assistant, and the automations don’t know the new entities so none of your wall switches work until that’s fixed. And eventually you’ll get around to reinstating that firewall policy to block them from the Internet, but not today because you’ve spent long enough for one day on fighting with your light bulbs.
Or so I hear.
You don’t fluff your pillows or make your bed or wash the linens? Bed stuff needs daily maintenance; hopefully flashing the firmware on your smart pillow wouldn’t be daily, but you want to keep the bed bugs away, Shirley?
I don’t do the first two, and I wash them weekly. My home assistant stuff never needs maintenance, so no I’d wager that if I set it up locally it would work fine if the software was stable. But you said that’s when you’d do maintenance, at bedtime, which is also not when you’d be making the bed or fluffing the pillows or washing the sheets.
I wonder how it compares in functionality - to be clear, there’s no functionality I’m aware of that would require cloud (perhaps historical data).
Still, they’re wildly expensive.
I bought a brand new one of these on Marketplace because I really need a cooler bed, but I’ll be damned if I get sucked into a subscription for a fucking bed!! The hack i used was a workaround where you setup your own server that will set the bed temperature automatically at bedtime and can update it once again at some point during the morning (so you can wake up to a warm bed, for instance). It worked alright, but then the main unit crapped out after 2 weeks.
You should definitely be able to fix the main unit. It’s just a heat pump. The value is the tech in the mattress cover.
It’s actually not the pump, but the power supply that crapped out. I kept the unit because I’m sure it’s just a PC power supply, but I haven’t taken the time to crack it open. Oddly enough, there’s no information online about what the part number might be.
Ah dang. I though the nine sleep repo listed the parts but it doesn’t.
Don’t know what version you have but found these photos! https://imgur.com/a/eight-sleep-pod-2-teardown-hky0334
Expensive but super worth it. Honestly best improvement to my sleep ever. More so than any new mattress or pillow or sheets or anything else has ever done.
That sounds wonderful, to have an air gapped smart bed on open source software. Just like having the perfect nuclear missile launch system on Windows XP made by clever engineers. No updates, just dreams.