This community usually discusses consumer rights, but nobody is discussing this initiative. Is it maybe cuz Lemmy’s majority ain’t American?
I’ve seen this posted before, so it’s definitely been discussed on Lemmy before. Reading the comments back then is much like reading the comments here, Clippy does not really seem fit as a corporation fighting symbol and frankly changing your pfp will most likely have no impact to Youtubes management. Why not simply go for a Reddit blackout kind of protest where everyone switches all their videos to unlisted or blocking monetization on their videos (if that is possible)? That will surely get the attention of Youtube.
The goal is to show each other we are many. He explained it in another video, the clippy movement actually had an impact. This is simply the first step for organising as a group around a shared idea: using a common symbol. It doesn’t matter what the symbol is, as long as we recognize each other using it.
Why not simply go for a Reddit blackout
Well the whole reddit thing was just a bunch of volunteer mods. On the other hand, many YouTubers make a career out of the platform. Considering their livelihoods are at stake, and the vast number of YouTubers you would need to get on board to make google actually care? Organizing such a thing would be anything but simple.
Also the Reddit blackout did nothing. So I’m not why that’s your reference point. Charging pfp would achieve exactly the same. Nothing.
Americans love their nothing burger demonstrations.
From the same business geniuses that though that having you pay a fee to be allowed to pick a seat next to your other family members in an airplane was a good idea…
I’ve been out touching grass, what’s all this about?
Clippy is becoming a shared symbol. The idea it represents is that: we are not happy with the way companies lock us out of our own devices. We want to be allowed to do whatever we want with the hardware we bought. We want to be able to repair it. We want privacy when using it… Etc…
No, simply because I’ve never commented on youtube, so it’d be pretty useless, if not counterproductive. Giving even more information about my political/tech ethics to Alphabet doesn’t seem smart nor useful in my position. Also, I don’t even watch youtube videos on their website now. I usually use invidious instances or newpipe.
But I’m not against people doing it, especially if the ultimate goal is spreading awareness and building a community of people with privacy oriented ideas.
I’m on the same boat, except for the part about not using Youtube. Unfortunately I’m caught in that spiral where I watch every clickbait_y video about new programming language, new tech stack …ect. Are you able to watch every video normally with invidious and newpipe on Desktop (Linux/Windows) ? My experience wasn’t going that well, also Youtube is so good because of the bandwidth and you easily switch quality.
Have you changed you youtube pfp to clippy ?
I don’t work here.
No, I don’t wanna be associated with that guy.
I had never heard of him before. What’s his deal?
no. I think Goatse would make more of an impact than Clippy. But something tells me there’d be a problem with that
PFP idea: a smashed server and a dude ripping it apart. I call it GOAITSE
youtube pfp to clippy ?
That would require having a YouTube/Google account, so no
Pff. This reminds me of the This Is Bob protest against the forced Google+ accounts that were the beginning of youtube enshittification. It didn’t do shit. Anyone who wants a profile on youtube nowadays has a Google account. Google+ may have failed but the intent and mission behind it didn’t. Google has total control over anyone who wants to use YouTube now.
You can set clippy as your profile pic and feel like you have done something, but it’s not gonna change anything.
If people want to actually do something, they should abandon these predatory services and go open source or maybe become anti tech as much as possible. It doesn’t matter whether or not you signal to the Zuckerburgers on top how you feel if you’re just gonna continue to use their products.
The only thing that would scare them would be the numbers plummeting if they saw a mass exodus from their platforms and services and people actively began looking for alternatives. But most people can’t be fucked to do that because they are too enmeshed with these services that it is easier to stay. But putting clippy as your profile pic is super easy and costs you nothing so yay. You get to feel like you did something without actually sacrificing anything to make change and the Zuckerburgers will look at you and shrug. “Ah, the peasants are blowing off some steam again”.
Sorry for being so negative, but this is honestly so fucking weak. I may have missed something, but when has slacktivism ever changed the minds of these companies?
Google+ may have failed but the intent and mission behind it didn’t.
Google+ was Google’s attempt to take on Facebook with its own social product. It definitely failed, and the intent and mission failed too. That isn’t to say that they have no social data, but they definitely don’t have access to the full social graph that Meta does.
It wasn’t a complete failure. Before Google+ Google’s various products were all siloed. Your data in gmail was in a different silo from you data from search, which was different from your data from Google Reader, etc. As part of the Google+ push, Google put out an EULA that basically said that it could share data from any google product you used with any other google product you used and it was one big unified account now. Thanks to that, they’re able to target their ads based on much more data. But, they still wish they’d been able to get a Facebook competitor up and running so they could see more clearly who your friends and family were. There’s so much interpersonal data they’re missing out on.
when has slacktivism ever changed the minds
Hey, don’t you remember how changing your Twitter profile picture to have a green overlay encouraged the Arab Spring to bring lasting democracy all over the Middle East?!? /s
Lol, did people do that? I only remember the black square for the blm movement, but I have also never really been on Twitter, so most of what I know about trends on that platform is what has been shared on other platforms.
I do really think that one of the things we have to do as collective, is something somewhat impossible but,
We need to pick the things we really care about. Limit ourselves from the everything that we have been offered for so long and find what brings us joy specifically and start following and protecting that and doing it off the Internet, or at least the at large big players.
Find artists in our spaces locally that make the comedy, or comics, or stories, the developers that make their own games and movies that dont outsource their work to others so that it no longer feels like art.We can still have globalised sharing and our spaces can support that by raising up the best of the best naturally through communication and sharing but not just by being told it’s gonna be big or given to us easily.
The only way out feels like we as a collective need to start putting work into cultivating and tending to our fandoms and we cant be as greedy as it will take more work. Im fine with us being an insatiable species craving for more cause its how we don’t stop, and i want new artists and new creators and new spaces. But i think we cant be lazy about it anymore. And i think doubly so we cant think we can do all of it.
Problem is that the majority of people are not going to do any of that because it takes work and people either don’t want to let go of comforts, they don’t care enough or they don’t have the energy to be digital activists after they have finished a day of work.
It will probably only gain traction if it becomes the cool thing to do among young people and even then, it will most likely be a smaller number of young people who will bother doing all of this.
The rest will become really good at prompting their way through life because its easier, more comfortable and takes the least effort.
they don’t have the energy to be digital activists after they have finished a day of work.
Good news! With the rate corporations are laying off and firing workers, pretty soon they will have plenty of time for activism.
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Yeah i mean that seems likely with how things are going but also things rarely go exactly to plan.
Im a realist so, i accept that it is entirely possible its gonna keep getting worse. I’m just also a sucker for optimism and maybe someday it will be better.
Probably not tomorrow or next year… Probably gonna be a lot more of this for a while.
Hold on to your optimism! We need people like you.
I consider myself a pessimistic optimist. Things probably aren’t gonna happen the way we hoped, but we will adapt and make some lemonade with what we are given.
It’s so rare that hyped movements go anywhere because the focus is always on the wrong things, but in the long term, if companies make it increasingly obnoxious to use their services, people will most likely silently make the move to open source through word of mouth. It isn’t as sexy and bombastic as making clippy your avatar and doing armchair V for Vendetta protests, but it’s through people’s silent choices that change will gradually happen. Whether or not this change will be felt on a grand scale, I don’t know. I also don’t really care. I just believe that over time, more and more people will eventually turn their back on the big tech companies while the rest will stick around either out of indifference or ignorance and that is their right too.
Only one thing you can do to these bloated lizard-ass fuckers sipping boy-blood and soaking in little girl pussy on the most otherwise beautiful land in the world as the paranoiac securitization gradually creeps out from them building seemingly spontaneous bunker complexes everywhere they step will ever dissuade any of them from literally anything.
I do of course mean voting. You should vote for them.
I keep seeing this posted, but what the hell is a pfp?
Pro-File Picture? I don’t know, people abbreviate things in stupid ways.
Pro file picture
Whatever happened to calling them avatars? First my PMs got turned into DMs, now this. I’m truly becoming old.
that’s the term you use when searching on Google or Pinterest.
PM->DM was a mix of making it more obvious that those were NOT private in the slightest and to better align with marketing (“send a Direct Message to the celebrity you are stalking!”)
I am not sure when “pfp” took over but I’ve noticed over the past 3 or 4 months a LOT of random requests for a DM on discord of people asking where I got my pfp… which is literally a screenshot from a cartoon in the 00s. So I assume this is related to selling avatars to people on the game social networks?
Language simply changes over time.
I believe ‘avatar’ was generally changed to match Xbox and others using the term to describe full body digital expressions of the user, like the Xbox 360 avatars. I grew up knowing it as profile picture, but now I’ve changed my social messenger of choice to XMPP I’m seeing it referred to as an avatar again
profile picture
In reference to the subject on Rossman’s screenshot, that is an 8 year old scandal that was, AFAIK, never proven. What was proven, was an 11 year old report on emotional manipulation by then Facebook
When it comes to things like: Facebook/Meta or Israel, every bad rumor tends to turn out to be true.
This was surfaced in Sarah Wynn-Williams’ book.
The social media company likewise tracked when adolescent girls deleted selfies, “so it can serve a beauty ad to them at that moment,” according to Wynn-Williams. Other examples of Facebook’s ad lechery are said to include the targeting of young mothers based on their emotional state, as well as emotional indexes mapped to racial groups, like a “Hispanic and African American Feeling Fantastic Over-index.”
Facebook Allegedly Detected When Teen Girls Deleted Selfies So It Could Serve Them Beauty Ads
I only watch the guy for one thing: His cats! :-)
Okay two things.
I didn’t set my pfp to clippy mainly because I’m lazy and don’t really comment on Youtube.
People complaining people are only doing this to follow a trend are completely right. BUT! some of those trend chasers might actually stop and think about the message, and might realized we’re all being scammed by modern tech/software companies.
I ain’t expecting some mass protest or anything, but it’s at the very least a small handful more people giving a shit about their relationship with technology. As apposed to most who just throw their information and money at any sign-up page that asks.
I ain’t expecting some mass protest or anything
It’s hard to tell really, when even PewDiePie is making videos about DeGoogling and switching to foss and Linux. You know how influential he is among gen z (or gen Alpha, I’m not really sure).
Clippy already was a big step in the wrong direction from Microsoft, i’m not gonna celebrate mistakes of the past because they seem benign in comparison to todays mistakes.
Clippy wasnt a bad idea, especially in an era where computers were just becoming mainstream. But just like most microsoft’s products, the poor implementation made it useless and annoying…
What about Tux throwing clippy in the bin? Acknowledgement and shows it doesn’t go far enough
I can count the amount of fucks any tech giant gives about Clippy avatars on a snake’s hands.
On the other hand, seeing this symbol more and more on other random videos outside that bubble does give a very nice sense of “I am not alone”. It does more for users to find eachother than it does damage to big corpos.
But choice of the symbol itself is questionable… Why use a big tech symbol to protest big tech? -__- And not just any big tech, but super evil 90s monopolistic giant Microsoft
There’s a nice cartoon in this thread we’re clippy is if he could have, he would have harvest all your data.
we know we are not alone because here we are.
i don’t need a boost to my ego or hopium, i need solutions.
Come on. Changing an avatar picture has never achieved anything. On top of that, changing to a corporate mascot to fight corporate greed….give me a break. There are better actions to take like being on fediverse instead of Reddit or other social media platforms or using libre office. I get the rant but an avatar change doesn’t mean anything.
It’s mostly idiots who want to be part of something and some that “don’t like” what is happening and “want” change but put in the least possible amount of effort pathetically to attempt to cause a change, and this only when someone popular suggests.
They never really want to stop using the product. It’s like drug addicts trying to make drugs less addicting by “protesting” against the very thing they use (and will keep using) literally everyday.
Personally, I have more of a “I’m not alone” feeling when I actively leave services that I disagree with and through word of mouth find alternatives where I can talk to people who seem to have the same base values I do. Even if we disagree on other things.
It’s the laziness of this initiative that drives me up a wall. People want change but they don’t want to work for or sacrifice anything for it.
I agree with you
It’s a good thing that’s not what it’s about then. It’s about showing the size of the community, and knowing that there are other people like you that care, and thus you will be more likely to actually do something.
Had me in the first half, but I don’t see any clippys doing much of anything but ishposting
Thank you. I needed that chuckle 😂❤️
