Fuck microsoft. Fuck the Idea that everything needs to make a profit. Essential stuff should be publicly owned.
I want to nationalize seashores. It’s unfair rich people privatized entire coastline.
Same with natural resources. WTF are they owned by corpos? Anything mined and drilled should be owned by all citizens
I want to nationalize seashores. It’s unfair rich people privatized entire coastline.
Make them rentable. I want a private piece of seashore for vacation. But nobody should be able to own it for life.
Same with natural resources. WTF are they owned by corpos? Anything mined and drilled should be owned by all citizens
as sad as it is, that failed miserably in the soviet union. The soviets initially had way better computer but because all industry was publicly owned noone competed and noone bought computers which is why they fell behind the US.
There is a sensible middle ground that allows for the pressure-driven innovation of capitalism without its extreme and unfair exploitation. We just have to find it.
I disagree. Soviets were busy recovering from WW2 for decades while funding own allies. They were not in the position to splurge on non necessities.
But even with that - they supplied entire population with oil, gas, electric no problems. Utilities barely cost anything even in modern russia
People don’t have a choice. Microsoft made W11 incompatible with a lot of hardware and Microsoft said, “lol, buy new hardware”
Giving nary a single fuck about whats best for their users.
Got Linux on my laptop, literally just waiting a year to put it on my desktop (Linux does NOT like brand new hardware)
That might be true for distros like mint, but fedora is usually fine with brand new hardware.
bruh i’m using cracked Ltsc w10, so less bloatware and i dont want to use this shit or w11 anymore.
Just my two cents. I personally own a lot of different gaming devices running different platforms. I don’t have an allegiance to one particular platform because::I just think they’re neat::.
I don’t think I’m unique in this case either. In reality it’s always been “use the right tool for the right job” kinda scenarios.
With that being said, open source platforms have broken into the scene in a big way recently. I built a bd790i/radeon7800xt system a little while back and it has become my primary gaming platform. It runs Bazzite and it’s always just ready to go with most (if not all) of my steam games running.
I basically use windows on machines running Nvidia hardware. Even on my workstation where Nvidia has basically decided their chosen platform is WSL2 and chosen not to embrace the larger Linux ecosystem completely (yet).
I do have a test box that constantly runs bazzite-dx where I am testing Nvidia compatibility. It’s getting REALLY GOOD. however I just had a set back where Bambu studio flatpaks do not render 3d objects anymore. Flatpaks integration with Nvidia is a major pain sometimes as it can break with driver updates. I’m really new to this but fltapak needs the driver as well as the base system and then the flatpacked application needs to support it as well? It seems cumbersome. I don’t have this problem with AMD GPUs.
AMD is better than NVidia, just because AMD did not spend years screwing the Linux community out of drivers. I do not need that additional bajillisecond of speed that I do not notice anyways just to use NVidia’s bullshit. Seeing Linus Torvalds flip off NVidia with a very public “fuck you” is one of the most satisfying things I have ever seen. NVidia can eat a dick!
Right and I agree. All my recent hardware purchases in the last 3 years have all been AMD.
I have SOME Nvidia hardware right now and I’m sure other people do too. Unfortunately, AMD is lagging behind in some key scenarios that will hopefully be resolved in the near future. AMD knows this and doesn’t compete in the high end currently (outside of Datacenter).
I do like to think that AMDs apus are the future and the death of the discrete GPU is imminent. I have been looking at things like the 395 AI MAX (poorly named CPU) for some testing but right now it doesn’t make sense to hop platforms financially.
It’s good to see people making a switch to Linux. But the real tell will be in finding out how many of those people actually stick long term.
Dual booting will likely be a part of it, and microsoft will do whatever they need to make sure the bootloader is broken constantly.
VMs. easier and less troublesome.
That possible for sure. But I don’t see dual booting being as common as it once was. Owning an old spare computer is pretty common these days. Heck, you can even get a dirt cheap mini desktop off of amazon and a referb/used/spare monitor and have a completely fine old time messing around with different distros without a care in the world. And that’s a far easier entry into Linux than dual booting anymore.
Dual booting has always been a pain in the ass. Unless you’re a multiplayer gamer that needs kernel level Anti-Cheat it’s easier to just swap over and suffer the transition.
Its more about having the option. I’d be more comfortable going to linux if I knew that there would be a way to continue using something in a pinch, even if I just need to figure out how to fix it later.
That’s a valid way too. It’s just that a lot of people aren’t really ready to dive in with both feet from the start. No matter how easy Linux has become or we might think its is. Change is scary and hard. And I think that’s a problem that holds back many people yet today.
Does that exclude steam deck users?
Good question. It’s an actual survey (not analytics data) which asks specifically about PCs, not handhelds. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
Survey data isn’t always the best data. Linux users might be more likely to take the survey in the first place, for example, while Windows users might not care to.
I am moving over once win10 support ends and it starts to cause friction for me.
I liked the comment going “Steam doesn’t have data on PC gamers, only Steam gamers.”, hinting at the seven gamers that stubbornly refuse to use Steam and still hunt for CDs, or old archives of shareware. They are people too dammit!
I will be, too, sometime next year. instead of just doing the regular reset of windows, which as I recently learned is now an absolute pain in the ass instead of something quick and easy, I’m going to be switching over to Linux
I’m sure I’ll still keep a windows PC around, but I’m pretty fed up with Microsoft just being so goddamn shitty at designing an OS for user experience
Why not now? Do you use the computer for school or work?
Linux is very easy to try, without even installing it. You can load Linux Mint on a USB thumb drive, then the hardest part is setting your BIOS to boot from it.
The change is even more dramatic if you consider only English-speaking areas, and it seems to have sped up this year. China, for example, is a big market, and they like Windows a lot. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/steam-tracker/ collects various data about Steam usage. One of the charts (screenshot below) show Linux market share in English only areas and overall Linux market share. I added the red line to demonstrate how I see the growth. There’s only few data points this side of the year, so my drawing is most likely wrong, but the growth starts around March. The green line is at 4.8% in January and February and 6.31% in July, so a nice 30% increase within about 6 months in English only areas.
Considering how people love to delay things until the last minute, I expect it’ll sharply rise in October.
I know this because I’m one of those people. Linux on several PCs and servers for years, but I’ve been too lazy to format & rebuild my gaming PC to get it off win10 and onto Linux.
You’ll switch and then ask yourself why you waited so long.
Could it be that Steam overcounts the users? I mean if you have a Steam Deck, do you now count as a Linux user, thus diluting the Windows share, even though you’re still (also) using Windows?
It’s based on devices. But, I wouldn’t consider it as diluting the Windows share. A user might have any combination of devices. Maybe they have PS5 as their home gaming device and Deck as their handheld device. They could also have Windows PC and Nintendo Switch. Or maybe they have Mac laptop and Linux desktop. I for one belong to the Linux desktop and Steam Deck camp. Steam Survey only tells how many Windows, Linux and Mac devices Steam users use, but, for example, not how many hours each type of device is used.
It is capitalism man, you vote with your vallet. If you have 2 devices (you spent money twice) you count twice.
I run Linux in English (because translated Unix looks weird) even though I’m not in or from an English speaking country. Sorry for skewing the stats.
Linux only gamer for 3+ years now. It is a good time for the penguins.
I just had to change my expectations a bit (which might be a lot for some), but the end result is pretty good.
Always having bad Ping times in multiplayer games, helped out a lot with it.I assume you mean the ping was better on linux and the bad aspect was on windows?
Only thing not working properly right now for me is Trackmania 2020, i get massive lagspikes due to it.using 100% Cpu for some reason.
I mean its ubisoft so thats probably why its shit but i like.the game and would love it if it would work properly
Are you on an Nvidia gpu?
Yes why? 3070ti
I have had the most issues with Nvidia gpus. Have you double checked it didn’t go back to the open source drivers after an update? Sometimes you need to download the proprietary drivers from Nvidia’s website after every kernel update.
Funnily, my performance in trackmania is fine… But I have an entirely different issue - if at any point I open the Ubisoft overlay, from that point on, if I tab out of the game and back in, I’m unable to control the car until I open and close the overlay again. The UI accepts inputs normally, it’s just the car that doesn’t.
Previously I had an issue where the game would refuse to accept controllers being connected while the game was running - the button prompts would actually switch to controller style, but the game would refuse to accept controller inputs, and the controller wouldn’t show up in settings.
But yeah, those are issues very specifically with that game, I don’t even know how they managed that.
The game is also horribly optimized. Are you using open planet? You can install the tweaker plugin and reduce render distance, although this probably only reduces the load on the GPU. For me on steam deck it works fine if the maps aren’t too big, at least I don’t get cpu spikes.
the switch to linux felt like getting out of an abusive relationship
I still run Windows on a rarely-used old laptop. Every time I use it, it reminds me how much that’s true.
- Forcing you to reboot to install updates, sometimes interrupting a download or something just because it knows best
- Ads creeping in all over the place
- More and more “features” you don’t want and never asked for
- AI being shoved in your face
- Surveillance everywhere
- Constantly trying to push you to use “Edge” instead of your chosen browser
Linux is not a perfect rose-colored relationship but it’s a mature one.
This is me. Always Windows for my gaming computer and when I built a new one recently, I went full Linux. No regrets so far.
Same. Overall it’s been a great experience, but it’s had a few issues. Nothing making me even consider going back though
Switched to Linux Mint a couple of weeks ago. Been playing games for 30 years on windows. So far so good. Played The Drifter through Heroic without issue. Great game btw.
Got an 1080ti. I hope I won’t run into to many issues.
Which distro did you go with? I’m looking at switching soon too
Bazzite.
I found it really easy to get started with. Although I’d recommend KDE over Gnome. I tried Gnome for a few hours before changing my mind and it was just a little too different from what I was used to.
if you miss iphone + cydia, gnome + extensions is max dopamine, plus with arcmenu (customizable start menu, many presets) and dash to panel (panel like windows/kde) it’s basically like any other de.
That’s honestly the way. Bazzite just works without tinkering. It doesn’t eat into your game time with debugging. Plus KDE is very Win10 like, so it’s all just familiar and easy.
I’m glad Bazzite is what it is, but I’m hoping some of y’all get interested in other distros in the next few years. There’s several great options out there (and I don’t want to say … have everyone wind up on Ubuntu flavors and be having the same conversation about corporate overreach in a decade with Canonical as the new Microsoft)
Bazzite exists because of SteamOS, and SteamOS is Arch-based. If there’s a danger of one OS starting to dominate, I’d still think SteamOS is more likely because it has Valve’s backing.
I don’t think there’s much danger of all other distributions disappearing any time soon, even for gaming applications.
What I hope is that container-based atomic-type distributions take off. I’ve been using Linux for decades, and it’s such a nice change to have an OS where I don’t have to fiddle with drivers or the base OS.
have everyone wind up on Ubuntu flavors and be having the same conversation about corporate overreach in a decade with Canonical as the new Microsoft)
Bazzite is Fedora based, not Ubuntu.
:%s/Ubuntu/Fedora/g
Bazzite is a community-made distro.
Eh, I already have a decent amount of skill with running other distros headless. When it’s gaming time I prefer a solution that just works 99% of the time.
Yeah, I love tinkering, but I also love not having to worry about an updating breaking my system. Bazzite is almost boringly stable lol
I’m used to Debian so I prefer Gnome, but either way, congrats on being more skilled with Bazzite than JayZTwoCents!
Here’s your commemorative psuedo gem!
Work computers had Gnome on Ubuntu, RHEL etc.
I installed my Debian with KDE.
Gnome is great on laptops, specially touchscreen enabled ones.
Though with extensions you can get it to behave very similar to KDE
The current gnome (3) is very different from previous versions. You might like a modern fork of gnome, like mate. Don’t let something that has a gnome connection turn you off right away if all you’ve seen is gnome 3.
I… don’t think Bazzite has a… mate flavor/spin/variant?
I think its just KDE or GNOME?
if on cachyos you get like 12+ de options which is nice when initially testing them all out, just demo each for a while
Thats neat, I didn’t know that!
Yeah, a benefit of arch based distros is that they are much, much more customizable than other OSs… downside of that though is that there are a whole lot more bugs that can happen, whole lot more crazy custom solutions that may need to be figured out.
I’ve not used Cachy, but I have used Arch before… if the Cachy people can figure out a way to keep all that just generally more stable, honestly kudos to them!
Bazzite basically narrows its official support scope so they can focus on a feature set that ‘just works’… I am sure I could figure out how to torture a Bazzite install to work with a non KDE / Gnome DE, but it would be a lot of work.
Or maybe it could set it up with the built in distrobox/distroshelf tools? Not sure, never futzed with a different DE in a distrobox.
Look at the desktop environment first. KDE is like Windows. GNOME is like MacOS.
Then look at some videos about how to get your GPU working on a distro you’re interested in if you have an Nvidia card. AMD GPU works out of the box.
I would recommend OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. Excellent implementation of KDE, GUI tools to do advanced things, rolling release (i.e. constantly up to date) but also thoroughly tested. Rolls back easily if something gets messed up. This gave me the least problems starting and I stuck with it for over a year. It was great.
I recently switched and have distro hopped a bit, landing on CachyOS which I feel I’ll stick with for a while (though I’m very indecisive and a small part of me wants to change over to Arch). CachyOS is based on Arch but with more ease of use stuff on top, especially for gaming (they have a gaming bundle which is just one command and you’re good to go), plus I’ve heard it’s the fastest or one of the fastest out there. Bazzite is also great (Fedora-based), which I used for a bit, but I started to get into using the command line more and found immutability to be annoying. It does mean it’s harder to fuck up though, but I don’t really care if I break my machine (you probably won’t break your machine regardless, that’s mostly sarcastic). Pop_OS! (Ubuntu-based) is also supposed to be good for gaming but I haven’t tried it. Keep in mind, if you plan on doing more than gaming and decide to use the command line for downloading, most download guides out there assume you’re using something based on Ubuntu or Debian (you’ll see a lot of “sudo apt install _____”), for better or worse. If you scroll down a bit you’ll probably find stuff for Fedora and/or Arch but not always. That doesn’t mean you can’t get the program on those distros, just that you’ll have to either know where to look or download a different way, such as from a digital storefront or manually from the website of the program you’re getting. I’m still a beginner actively trying to get better, but these are all things I would’ve liked to know when I made the switch a little while ago. Another thing to keep in mind is Linux and Nvidia don’t quite get along as well as AMD or Intel. I have an Nvidia card and both CachyOS and Bazzite had no issues, but for whatever reason Mint didn’t like to run steam games, no matter what I did. I made sure to have all the drivers downloaded and looked up a bunch of guides but I never got it running properly. Bazzite just worked straight out of the box, and CachyOS works even better for me after a little tinkering. If you have any questions, I just recently was where you are now so I might have more relevant advice, though I’m certainly no expert. But I’d be happy to help.
Once you know the equivalent commands to search, install, remove, … packages in your distro, problem solved.
For anyone reading this: immutable does not mean you cannot use the command line, and you cannot tinker. It’s just different, and you will need to learn a few new commands, etc.
Additionally, Bazzite comes with Distrobox where you can literally install any software on any distro (including AUR if you want). There’s almost no limits.
honestly i see pacman/yay just as much as I see other stuff when looking at instructions, (paru is pacman/yay in cachyos for that stuff, pacman in cachyos is their own repos)
Cachyos is great if you want access to everything, debtap for the rare ocassion you need to install a deb, can install snaps and flatpak support easily, but you don’t really need to mess with all that, mostly everything is available with aur + flathub (have to do one terminal line since cachyos doesn’t have it by default)
Bazzite does have bazaar by default, which i like as the best flathub appstore, aur version stopped working for me.
You can access the AUR in Bazzite very simply by creating an Arch distrobox and installing yay
oh and gearlever to update appimages and make desktop files so it shows up in menus, i only use this for shutter encoder right now
exactly what I ended up on with exactly the same issues with Mint (and Zorin as well). Cachy and Bazzite just worked (bazzite didn’t work on live image though), but yeah Mint just didn’t work.
I started work Bazzite but didn’t want to be immutable. Then I switched to Garuda. Both have been super easy.
FWIW I also switched last year and chose Linux Mint. It was smooth and easy.
I just wanted to drop in and say I use Arch btw… lol, there multiple things to suit your use cases, Linux has a few gaming flavors.
