China has lashed out at Germany after its foreign minister called Xi Jinping a “dictator” and summoned Berlin’s ambassador for a dressing down, in the latest flaring of tensions with a western democratic power over how the Chinese leader is described overseas.
When you change the rules so you can hold office longer than permitted in an authoritarian country that is an appropriate label for the dictator.
hexbear disagrees
Nobody gives a single fuck though because it’s hex bear
that bunch of larping teens?
The very same!
Then it must be true
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hexbears are trolls, they would disagree even if it killed their mother.
Yep and other rules
Very noticeable that they didn’t specify how he wasn’t a dictator, nor what other label would be more appropriate.
“I am not a dictator! Anyone who says I am will get jailed!” - Grand Poohbear of China, 2023
Hexbear users incoming in 3.2.1…
I use a client that can block instances, so I have all of Hexbear blocked. It radically improves the Lemmy experience.
Tell me your wisdom, duck of the lake.
I use a Violentmonkey script to do so
Whats the client?
Sync let’s you do it. Also possibly Connect? I forgot the other one, but i think it might be Connect.
Yes, connect lets you block instances, but it still shows that there was a comment there and lets you show it. It’s handy to see how much you’re blocking.
Kbin allows users to do this (noting kbin isn’t a client it’s a compatible platform).
Memmy app let’s you do it as well.
Does it? I can’t find that setting
Edit: Nevermind, I read this as Mlem
I am using Eternity or Voyager, I will be so happy when instance blocking comes to those.
Connect does instance blocking and I think LiftOff does as well.
I just.tried Liftoff and i did not see that option
Give Memmy a try. I switched to it so I could block entire instances. It’s made my feed so much better!
Thanks for the recommendation, but I’m on Android, so I can’t use it. On spezit I loved, and supported Infinity, the Infinity fork Eternity is very good. I love having my own colour theme, it’s great for qol, and all the other nice features it has.
Sync is an outstanding Lemmy client for Android.
Apologies! I should have mentioned it was for iOS.
No worries at all
Never hear a dissenting opinion. I’ll take, what is an echo chamber for $200.
There’s differing opinions and then there’s just shittalking. When it comes to differing opinions most of Hexbear interactions deliberately (by the admission of their own users) fall under shittalking. They deliberately antagonize and troll anyone with a different opinion because in their mind anyone who doesn’t agree with them should be trolled. You don’t get differing opinions from Hexbear, you get a bastardization of a differing opinion. One that is different only on the basis them telling you you’re wrong, and in most cases even that has to be intuited.
Nobody should wade through shit to get a few nuggets of gold which is why most people just block Hexbear.
Just because they blocked Hexbear doesn’t mean they block all the opinions they dislike.
Hexbear is just full of radicals and trolls.
Have you ever bothered to read the rules of your instance? If I go on there and say anything negative about your cute dictator I’ll be banned. However, you can freely go on our greedy capitalist instances and praise your teddy bear as much as you want. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I guess your mind can’t comprehend being free.
Do you mean the rule about not being Sinophobic? Is that really a hard rule for you to follow? I like to look at objective reality instead of just barking the same nonsensical shibboleths when the topic of China arises.
No capitalist apologia / anti-communism
You would whine even harder if lemmy.ml had
No communist apologia / anti-capitalismin their rules.Most anti-communism has no basis in reality and often are myths perpetuated by state agencies. All Anti-Capitalist sentiment is rooted in the material realities of our world and life. To deny socialist historical reality is to deny your own history, and ultimately is an admission of your disingenuous support of the truth.
Historical Materialism is truth seeking in practice. It requires you to have a fact based, objective view of our past and present.
Also I don’t know why I would whine, because I’m not using lemmy.ml. That instance can have whatever rules they want. I wouldn’t block or defederate from them because of it either. But if you are not interested in seeking the truth and objectively observing reality, then I guess you can insolate yourself from it and keep your echos.
Thankfully, OP is from an instance that has not federated with Hexbear. Hexbear users won’t be able to see this post.
But they have posted to .ml which is federated with hexbear. So the poster’s instance needs to be federated no the instance of the community where the post is?
You need both. For a comment you even need the community instance, the poster instance, and the commenter instance to all be federated
That’s confusing.
Basically, everybody needs to agree before access is granted.
It is the best way to block spammers and trolls.
Maybe she should’ve used the chinese word for dictator.
Ah yes, Xi Jinping
That’s exactly like his name!
Ah yes, Xi Jinping
*Winnie the Pooh
Because he was democratically elected in a transparent election. Unlike the current American demented imbecile.
What are you talking about? He doesn’t hold elected office. Here’s the last time he was re-appointed to his appointed position.
from your link:
“I was reelected as the general secretary of the CPC central committee,” Xi said in opening remarks, before presenting the six other members: Li Qiang, Zhao Leji, Wang Huning, Cai Qi, Ding Xuexiang, and Li Xi.
Even your link to the fucking guardian says he was elected fair and square. Unlike Jim Crow Joe.
Lol he was elected by the party, not the people, in what amounts to a loyalty test.
That’s how parliament works in the UK. Bunch of dictators over there in the Queen’s England.
In the UK there are multiple political parties.
And look how well that’s going for them.
Ah yes, because they are all very different and diverse and definitely don’t kowtow to the same political group. A wolf in a different hat is still a wolf.
Sounds like the electoral college
Sounds like you need to take a civics class
That won’t change the amount of presidents we’ve sworn in that didn’t have a majority of the people’s votes
Remember when the people of the USA chose to vote for one of two white supremacists?
Lol, neither do I, then the feds rigged the election anyway.
What?
Yeah they don’t tell you much about what’s going on in your police state do they? The feds paid a visit around to all the social media giants and forced them to censor negative news about paedo Joe. This is well known outside your prison state.
https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/zuckerberg-blames-fbi-for-censoring-the-posts-hunter-biden-scoop/
Omg you people are insufferable.
Suffer.
Whatcha gonna do, China? That’s right, nothing. Stay mad forever 😂
He’s gonna cope…and seethe.
Mald? What’s that?
Being so mad and triggered that you begin to bald.
Hahahahahahahhahaha
lucky your not a German ambassador! they would summon you for a “dressing down”
Haha, racism! I love that one!
Whatcha gonna do, China? That’s right, nothing.
What is there to do when you are already the one winning?
Mocking a single individual is not racism.
It may be bullying, but that is about it.
I’m an American so I can answer this question sincerely. When you are already the one winning, you work as hard as ever to keep winning. You innovate more. This is the American way. It’s why we’re the most advanced country on the planet, and it’s how we maintain that lead. Building off of the work of previous generations who made and did amazing things. That’s our approach and it works fucking awesome.
Jesus, just open KKK on here. Americans are truly the scum of the earth.
Famously, one of the worst atrocities of the KKK was posting memes of a chinese dictator
your fee fees get hurt?
Xi is so fat he is his own race 🤣😂
Is this com full of pre-teens?
So yes.
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I think this is actually true.
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Well you can fuck right off! The same person *supposedly upset about the KKK just discriminated against 330,000,000 people from every country on Earth in the very next breath. You’re worse than racist.
He talked about Americans, not people.
Yeah I’m bigoted against genocidal psychopaths. Fuck me right?
Like xi jinpooh right?
You are the genocidal psychopath. Fuck you indeed.
We know a thing or two, because we’ve seen a thing or two
- Germany, probably
Hitler obviously wasn’t a dictator as he was democratically elected by a majority (after competing parties were banned) and then -just out of situational necessity of course- got a lot of extra powers to ignore laws and constitution.
Yeah, I see how that Chinese definition works.
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Hexbear would be seething… if they could read.
Hitler obviously wasn’t a dictator as he was democratically elected by a majority (after competing parties were banned) and then -just out of situational necessity of course- got a lot of extra powers to ignore laws and constitution.
wow, just like zelensky!
history sure is wacky sometimes…
What extra powers did Zelensky give himself then that his predecessor did not have?
The power of staying in nice hotels around the world, racking a lot of cash while sending the poor people of his country to the meat grinder.
I love how every single comment making fun Xi the pooh here is getting downvoted lol
Here’s a little something for the dictator simps:
Gee, I wonder which group of users would do something like that…
Probably the antiracists. You should wonder if you’re on the right side when you are promoting and supporting racism.
LMAO! Racist? I didn’t know “dictator” was a race! Please, enlighten me.
The Winnie the Pooh meme about Xi is just racism. I don’t care if you think he’s a dictator.
Not racist at all. It’s against one person. Trump’s face is seen on an orange all the time. No one is calling for racism. He just looks like a damn orange.
Not racist at all. It’s against one person.
So depicting Obama as a monkey in a political cartoon wouldn’t be racist?
That would be racist, because of the whole monkey-black-people existing racial insult. In the same way, it is not racist to depict Xi as Winnie the Pooh since there is no “President Xis look like cartoon bears” racial insult.
So if Obama was depicted as Curious George that’d be cool yeah?
If only Obama was depicted like that, yes.
But it is commonly used to depict black people in general.
While nobody uses Winnie the Pooh to depict Chinese people, only their dictator.
There’s a big difference here.
Is Trump’s skin naturally orange? Is there a long history of oppressing white people in the US and other NATO countries?
Just because the Winnie the Pooh meme didn’t originate as a racist symbol doesn’t mean that it isn’t used to propagate racism and sinophobia.
Just because the Winnie the Pooh meme isn’t actually racist doesn’t mean I’m not going to call it racist in a pathetic attempt to establish a fake moral high ground over people who have arguments I can’t counter
There, I fixed it for you.
Xi isn’t in the US and his country isn’t part of NATO. Political cartoons are as old as time. They poke fun at the individual, not their descent. By trying to make it more you’re arguing for it to be censored. He has feelings (maybe), but he has gone so far as to attempt to censor the cartoon from his own country. Not because he believes it is racist, but because his opinion is that he doesn’t like it. Streisand Effect of course, it gets used more. I think Xi does remarkably look like Pooh. Do other Asian persons? No. There isn’t an innocence about it. Xi feels bad by it, people use it to make him angry. He is a dictator with lots of power so people use the one tool they have to attempt to fight that power - a fucking cartoon bear.
What? Winnie the Pooh is from a British cartoon…Asian people aren’t described as “orange” by racists. I don’t think you know the origin of this meme
Please illustrate how a British cartoon character is a racist caricature of xi? Is Barack Obama a tiger?
The Taiwanese use the meme all the time. Obviously not because it looks like Xi in particular and especially because of fragile censoring, but because they like to be racist against themselves. That must be it.
Calling Trump a guinea pig is probably also considered racist in lemmygrad.
it’s not racist bro the “taiwanese” use the meme all the time
The guy who replied to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in your second screenshot seems like one of the far-right wingers. They do not, in any capacity, represent the general population.
and especially because of fragile censoring
You think these memes are censored? Lol, you live in an authoritarian shithole that brainwashes you with this stupid shit. Use your brain.
Taiwan is where the former Republic of China retreated after being defeated by the People’s Republic of China. The censorship of Xi=Pooh in China isn’t rooted in racism, it’s rooted in the political conflicts between the ROC and PRC. China censors these comparisons because they are used by opponents to attack the government. You don’t have to agree with their methods to understand why they would want to do this. Censoring realistic threats to the ruling government is a common practice in all nations.
The racist aspect originates from how the meme is used in Western circles where there is a long history of racism towards minorities and the enemies of the US as well as a long history of sinophobia.
If your understanding of history, racism, and their opinions of Trump are so shallow, maybe lurking Lemmygrad to learn why users from this instance act so aggressively towards racism and war-mongering propaganda would be helpful.
If being connected to a cartoon is a “realistic threat” then you have a shit government
Top tier pearl clutching
Fair.
You have to be joking.
Right, because the meme about a Chinese man being a yellow bear isn’t racist.
It’s not racist
Dehumanizing people through racism is a well established method the US has historically used when manufacturing consent to go to war among its people. Look at depictions of Germans and Japanese in WWII. Look at depictions of Koreans, the Vietnamese, Afghans, and Iraqis during the invasions of their countries.
Just because its origins weren’t racist doesn’t mean it hasn’t taken on a racist meaning. Sinophobia is rooted in racism and ignorance.
It’s one guy, not a caricature of Chinese people
woah wtf you are being ridiculously racist. get the fuck out of here with that racist offensive stereotyping
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He isn’t a man. He is a bear. A fat, dumb bear.
Are you talking about your mom?
Whoa whoa saying Chinese are yellow isn’t cool. Dat’s racist, with Pooh the color isn’t relevant
You bet Clearview AI is doing a good job here!
Pooh lover
the *.ml follows the will of the Supreme Soviet
It’s definitely part communists, but I think mostly special interest groups, maybe even from China itself.
You really want to feel special enough to think the Chinese government would even care about this internet backwater? Get real.
Never heard of propaganda? It is like sand.
It is course and rough, and it gets everywhere.
Altering public opinion is definitely on their agenda. I’m not the type of person that screams China bad on everything, but this simply wouldn’t surprise me. Also, nobody is trying to feel special here, except for you.
What a goddamned loser. Go sell your ignorant cultist bullshit somewhere else. Nobody here is buying it other than mindless idiots
Well that just goes to prove her point. Well done, Xi.
Overacting insecure jerk what Xi is
I don’t think any country would like their head of state be called a dictator.
Except maybe Rome
And yet normal, functioning countries don’t lash out like this.
Isn’t your president a paedophile?
No, we voted for the older guy this time.
When the shoe fits, start wearing it. PRC is an authoritarian state led by a dictator and his cronies.
Don’t you guys run the largest network of slave camps in the world? Yes you do!
Lemmygrader stay on topic challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Topic is authoritarianism wasn’t it?
The topic is Xi Jinping
The most successful president in the world.
Every dictator would be
How so? What do you mean?
It’s spelt Uyghurs, not you guys.
No. You guys call them negroes.
Fact is, your shithole failed state has 20% of the world’s prison population, mostly black.
Don’t get sick y’all. Might mean your life.
Cool, you can now go and tell your foreign minister, that they are allowed to call @NotTheOnlyGamer a slave owner.
Eh, okay?
Slave camps?
Easy fix: don’t be a dictator.
How can he stop being something that he’s already not?
Someone who jails people over depicting them in a mocking way is a dictator.
Someone who bans historic events and pretends they never happened is a dictator.
He is. Be quiet now.
they see me rollin’
in ma tankie
pulpin’ protestors but they still call me silly commie
Germany is right
You could even say, it is far-right.
Most dictators haven’t gone by that term, preferring instead some other executive role like chairman, supreme leader, or president. If Xi doesn’t want to be called a dictator, maybe China should start holding open elections, see how popular the CCP really is.
The CCP has higher approval rates than western governments and the vast majority of Chinese believe they are living in a democracy. This is confirmed by western studies; latest one I’ve seen was from Harvard.
Belief can be a helpful thing
the vast majority of Chinese believe they are living in a democracy.
So do the vast majority of Americans.
Okay but what meaningful influence does the average Chinese person have on who is chosen as Paramount Leader.
Enough for them to believe that they live in a democracy, it seems (and I don’t say that sarcastically).
It’s not like people in liberal democracies have more influence. We can’t choose who runs, and each individual’s vote is negligible. I don’t know the specifics of China’s government, but I suspect they value being able to influence local policy and higher official elections via the Communist Party more than a direct vote on its leader – I would too, honestly.
A fair bit, actually. China’s political system is basically a popularity system from bottom to top. At the lowest level, politicians only stay in power if their population is happy. This trickles up to the provincial level, where politicians again only stay in power if their population is happy. At a national level, the national leaders stay in power by building, essentially, large cabinets out of different provincial and regional leaders - thus, their entire position relies on keeping the provinces happy.
It’s not the perfect system, but Chinese citizens can fairly easily impact local and even provincial policy and, by extension, influence national policy (recently, by repealing the COVID lockdowns with mass protests).
The CCP isn’t an absolute monarchy or something. At the end of the day, it serves it’s people. The power of the Chinese economy is in its industrial capacity, after all, not in its wealth: the needs of the people need to be addressed to keep the country stable.
The same as the average western person… So probably very little.
don’t make conflations with the USA and other liberal democracies. There are plenty of transparent, effective democracies where popular votes matter massively, and saying because the USA is electorally broken that everywhere is only serves the narrative that true liberal democracy “isn’t possible” i.e., exactly what China and Russia suggest.
The CCP does not have confidence in that though, hence the way it runs the elections there.
I’d say that it has confidence in that, but their elections and government are structured in a different way.
Just like Ford sold their cars in any colour you want, so long as it is black.
If 95% of ford owners were satisfied with their black cars, vs 40% for another manufacturer that provides cars in multiple colors, then ford would be the better manufacturer.
Most forced elections haven’t gone by that term, preferring instead some other description like people’s elections, free elections, or secured elections. Made up words but you get the idea.
Most dictators haven’t gone by that term, preferring instead some other executive role like chairman, supreme leader, or president.
Don’t forget Führer
Maybe he would prefer, as you say, an alternative executive role and the ego-soothing title that accompanies it? Supreme Pooh has a really nice ring.
Open elections when there is only one party in practice are moot
Tbh, with only two it’s not too much better either.
You got to choose between Hoe Biden and Donald Trump last time. Get back in your box.
Yeah, our elections suck. They should be more open and should be ranked choice. Likewise, the Electoral College is complete bullshit. Even still, Xi is a dictator and China is not a democracy. Multiple things can be true.
Huh? China has elections.
You can choose between voting for wumao Pooh or being kidnapped. Great choice!
Nazi Germany had elections. North Korea has elections. As long as there’s no actual opposition on the ballot, just having elections means nothing.
China is a democracy, the USA isn’t. Xi is the democratically elected leader of his country and enjoys massive popular support. Your past two presidents are hated by the peasantry. You have no understanding of the world because you live in what you think North Korea is like.
Your press is censored, your internet is censored, you have a one party state with no democracy and people die from preventable diseases daily. Homelessness and poverty are rampant. Child slavery and child poverty have skyrocketed under the current regime. America is a shithole, circling the drain and your pathetic racist shit in this thread just exemplifies how little you have to come back with.
Xi is the democratically elected leader of his country
How many people voted for him? How many votes did his opponent get?
No idea. I couldn’t even tell you that about my own country or the USA, you know that place that’s totally a democracy where they don’t count all the votes and keep the black people from voting with dirty tricks.
The general population does not vote for the presidency in China, the electors chosen by the CCP do. That is significantly less democratic than the US which is also not a very democratic country when it comes to the presidency.
Neither do americans get to vote for their president nor the germans for their chancellor.
no one tell this guy how bernie got the popular vote but didnt get to run
Okay well then just a simple question: when was the election?
Also no idea. I’m not your Google.
Chinese bots are welcome… to burn in a fire
Oh-oh here Xi comes
Watch out boy, Xi’ll chew you up
Oh-oh here Xi comes
Xi’s a man eater
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If any country knows what a dictator is, it’s Germany.
Dictators were never good at hearing the truth.
Quit being a dictator. 🤷
