Bro, you’re a commie of course I’m condescending.
[Socialist programs are] a fantasy
I guess we’re living in a fantasy: States:
The only thing PSL will disenfranchise are programs like those.
You must be young - to be promoting communism, so misguided.
What “stronger party” do Leftists have to work with?
The democrats, Dopey.
This idea that you can have a communist government that truly works for the people is a farce. It ignores who we are as a people. The only way is capitalism with strong social programs. Representatives like AOC are the ones standing up for real viable change, not PSL.
If the constituents supporting PSL would get off their high horse and help us get majority power over congress you would see meaningful change.
But, no. Let’s promote fucking communism. You are truly lost.
people voting for her would not vote for the Dems otherwise, they would vote for a different third party or abstain
That’s just stupid. I doubt supporters would rather Trump win, and by not voting Democrat that’s exactly what those people are helping. You are straight up helping Trump become president. Period.
Sure, keep up the grassroots movement, but fucking vote Dem, Jesus Christ. To throw your votes away like that is selfish and will only hurt your movement. You think you guys will have a better time getting your ideas across with a Trump presidency? You need to coalesce with another stronger party to be seen or heard. You think PSL is unique in any way? Alternative parties like PSL have come and gone for years because they have no strategy - you know, like thinking RCV is “ridiculous”. Look at the Forward Party, for example, for some not-so-ridiculous ideas that can give third parties a fighting chance.
It’s to delegitimize the electoral system and to advertise the party and party platform, PSL organizes year round, campaigns are generally the least of their worries.
Sounds delightful. But since it’s almost, you know, fucking November, can PSL leaders remind their constituents to vote Dem or we’re all fucked? Because, right now in the world we live in today, that’s how it works. If Trump returns to the office, you’re damn right campaigning will be the very least of their worries.
Okay, had to do some digging in the Tankie Tube tags. :smh:
This is Claudia De la Cruz, a prominent community organizer that appears to be rallying for support of a third party.
From her website votesocialist2024.com: “Claudia De la Cruz and Karina Garcia are running for President and Vice-President as the candidates of the Party for Socialism and Liberation.”
Well yeah, that’s sounds great. But here’s the problem with that; the USA is a two-party system. You can either vote for the Democratic Party or the Republican Party, there’s an Independent party but that’s irrelevant here. If Claudia wanted to make real change she wouldn’t be “the ‘spoiler’ candidate”, she would fight and lobby for ranked choice voting so that constituents could actually vote for a third and fourth party. Instead, she’s chosen the vain path of US presidency, a place she’s destined to fail.
Luckily her geographical influence appears localized in NY. Because if she was making any real waves, like in swing states, it would only hurt democrats at the poles, which is why this is some seriously dumb shit to be pulling in one of the most crucial presidential elections in modern history.
You want to make change, get better representation? You need to change the system first. Running for president in a third party isn’t going to do shit and everyone knows that. Maybe it’s all for the campaign dollars.
Hey OP, if you really give a shit about this “movement” maybe explain what your 1:30 quick-cut clip of some random rally is about.
Dude, I literally do not know what this is about and I’m asking. Who is this person and what is this clip about?
The title says The “spoiler” candidate, then the clip of the lady saying she’s all about spoiling shit that sucks, which I agree with, but who the fuck is she and what is she talking about, where is this rally? Is she a presidential candidate, running for another office?
Zero context, I’d like to know more and that’s somehow a troll to you?
It sounds like you’re really passionate about this, maybe you should explain to people what it’s about.
I did lol
What movement are they talking about, who is that woman? There’s zero context.
I have zero idea what this clip is about
I’d say keep it
Absolutely, DRM is bullshit. Even Apple stopped using it - and not just for iTunes but also for streaming downloads.
Nope, not the DRM locked media
And my axe!
Notable Communist Governments and Their Human Rights Records:
Soviet Union (1922 - 1991)
China (1949 - Present)
Cuba (1959 - Present)
North Korea (1948 - Present)
Vietnam (1976 - Present)
Laos (1975 - Present)
References: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/human-rights-index-vdem
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global
https://www.discoverwalks.com/blog/world/the-25-most-influential-communist-figures-of-all-time/
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-seven-most-influential-communist-leaders-ever.html
https://www.thoughtco.com/communist-countries-overview-1435178
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/communism/
History isn’t propaganda
Always cracks me up to see people who champion open source alternatives hate on communism.
This isn’t about “drawing comparisons” this is about how you don’t understand why someone would champion open source software and hate on communism…because of course people hate on fucking communism, you dope.
It’s proven time and time again that communist governments bring suffering to their people. Like, some fucked up shit. Like starvation, inequality, and lack of basic human rights.
Whereas open source software can be educational, build cost effective solutions for people and businesses, and empower people’s lives.
You see the difference?
make millions of people felons overnight
Also wrong. I knew you were going to spout some far right bullshit propaganda.
Here, take some time to educate yourself.
Listen up people - it is okay to evolve our laws as we evolve as people. No one needs a fucking AR-15, and if you do, it should be regulated.
…JFC
You shouldn’t feel that way, because communism has absolutely nothing to do with open source software.
Communism is a political ideology.
Open source software is a licensing technique for creators and developers. Mostly so that no one has to worry about getting sued if they want to implement or modify said software. You think a communist government would even allow the use of open source software over government issued/approved software?
Yeah, but you’re also wrong about the gun rights. They’re trying to enact sensible laws, not strip gun rights.
The most [egregious] recent example is the legality of arm braces.
It’s not egregious, that’s called a sensible conversation.
Why do gun fanatics need these types of guns anyway? What are you hunting, dragons? It’s so cringe to me when gun enthusiasts get all upset about responsible gun laws - they just want to shoot everything and anything with the most firepower they can acquire. God forbid they have to earn the right to own such a weapon.
Democrats believe that we can reduce gun violence while respecting the rights of responsible gun owners. We believe we should expand and strengthen background checks for those who want to purchase a firearm – because it shouldn’t be easier to get a gun than a driver’s license.
That is not taking your precious guns away, it’s requiring you to not be a complete moron before acquiring one. Which is apparently why you have a problem with the proposal.
Yes. You need a reference when you’re talking pure bullshit. None of that unfounded crap is on the democratic agenda. That’s why you can’t cite a single reference.
Bullshit like yours needs to be called out every time.
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