Been hearing it since 2004.
Uh huh, and how do those numbers compare to the number of eligible voters who simply didn’t vote at all? Maybe the Clinton campaign should have just done better campaigning in those states, or offered a better platform.
You owe her your vote! How dare you expect her to try and earn your vote?
maybe, yes. but 2 bad things don’t make one good thing.
Having more options in a democracy is never a bad thing. When victory requires the deterioration of democracy, then democracy is already dying or dead.
Not in Electoral College and “winner takes all” democracies. You kinda have the option, but if a candidate is super evil, you have to switch to voting against them, instead of what would be nice.
If it’s a democracy that forms coalitions, like many in the EU, for example, you can vote for what would be nice, so they can team up with others against the evil. This doesn’t work in the US presidential elections, unfortunately.
Why not do this with people who voted republican? Their politics are far closer to Hillary than Stein’s. Kind of weird to assume the further away politically voters are “owed” to you by the Greens but not the Republicans, with whom they share a neoliberal domestic and imperial foreign agenda.
Election math this like toilet paper math. To liberals the 3% that voted 3rd party has a larger impact than the 15% that changed party.
Why do you assume third party voters would vote dem (especially this cycle). I would NEVER vote for war criminals. I’ve never voted Republican and now I would NEVER vote democrat again. If I vote third party it’s that or the couch, your evil party is not an option.
For starters, they are not my party, I’m a socialist. You are misreading what I said, liberals claim the 3% that vote 3rd party are more responsible for a loss than the 15% that changed party.
Liberals blame Nader for Gore losing in 2000. Nader got about 3% of the vote. 15% of Dems that voted for Bill Clinton previously, voted for Bush that year. They always blame someone other than themselves for their losses.
Ah, apologies
Clear and utter bullshit, GTFOH with that propaganda
Clinton gave us trump, not 3rd party voters. Even without 3rd parties we would NEVER support your POS right wing oligarchs
Lmao, I thought that we lived in a democracy and not a “You owe the democrats a vote” state. Why don’t you better say? “Never Forget, what being a pro-genocide president that doesn’t listen to your constituents gets you”
I don’t owe Dems shit. I owe society my effort to prevent the orange-bad getting power again. We’re in danger of becoming a fascist state.
In danger? Look around you, we are there.
Hyperbole downplays the true risk if fascism becomes the mainstream in this country. We don’t have people being disappeared. We will if it becomes the main.
We don’t? The Patriot Act says US Citizens can be held indefinitely without trial, and tortured if they’re accused of terrorism.
Covert fascism has been the mainstay for decades, The only difference now is that covert fascism Is becoming more blatant.
If you’re are forced to choose between two pro-genocide candidates I’m afraid we have already passed fascism. Or maybe Palestinians don’t count as humans so there’s still time to save the US before fascism gets to the real people?
We’re in danger of becoming a fascist state? We just had a four year period of having a Democrat as president, with the Democrats also having a two year period at the start of that where they controlled both the Senate and the House. Are you telling me that the Democrats did nothing in that time to counter the threat of the US falling under fascist rule?
If the Democratic elected officials didn’t consider that to be important, why should we?
look bro, if trump wins because you don’t want to vote Harris, you will no longer live in a democracy.
if you think trump will stop israel or stop selling them weapons, you’re delusional. and he’s gonna win if people don’t vote Harris. the trump cultists will vote and that’s what you’re really up against.
You’re using the old script from when your org was still called shareblue. Please see the updated script that acknowledges that Trump was already president and the oligarchy masquerading as a democracy in fact survived unharmed.
Then you people should have backed a better candidate and not accepted the one that was installed. If you don’t demand better you are not gonna get better.
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