• rigatti@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I don’t think that’s true of all Democrats. Have there not been progressives pushing for alternative voting methods?

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      9 months ago

      Almost entirely signal boosted as proof of a carrot that both will most likely never arrive, and most likely won’t change anything even if it did arrive. There’s a large difference between individuals pushing for something and them actually managing to get them passed at a scale that matters.

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        9 months ago

        okay but it’s been passed in plenty of your states and that hasn’t been without democrat party support

        you don’t just change the system overnight - change like that can take a lifetime, and it starts with signalling to move the overton window

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          9 months ago

          okay but it’s been passed in plenty of your states and that hasn’t been without democrat party support

          Very few states, actually, and it passed in Alaska in a Republican state. Overall, it has weak momentum.

          you don’t just change the system overnight - change like that can take a lifetime, and it starts with signalling to move the overton window

          How do you signal to “move the overton window?” Prayer?

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            9 months ago

            the overton window aka “the window of discourse” is literally about talking, and making things more acceptable by their existence in the public consciousness

            the more people TALK about alternative voting mechanisms, the more likely it is for some change to occur… 1 person can’t just up and change the system overnight, but by “signalling” as you’ve dismissively called it, it makes it more likely that other people talk about it and that makes it more likely that it becomes policy

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            9 months ago

            How do you signal to “move the overton window?” Prayer?

            If only there was some kind of smaller election before the general election where we get to vote on who represents the Democratic party…

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              9 months ago

              If only we could vote on leftist candidates in the primary for the DNC, as though it isn’t a grand filter before anyone even gets to run…