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    it’s certainly on brand but this isn’t the official policy of any country, it’s a billionaire who owns a defense company trying to gin up business. Again, on brand but acting like this is tantamount to or evidence of the US actually doing these things is kind of silly. It’s Palantir, they aren’t a reputable source of anything other than RFPs.

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      Government tied “independent” think tanks and NGOs are part of the cycle of consent manufacturing that turns the avarice of billionaire ghouls into government policy. The US government is a bunch of banks and weapons manufacturers stacked on top of each other in a trench coat. A government is not a faction: its a tool, a weapon, it has no intention other than the intention of whoever carries it. This one is in the hands of the ultra wealthy and always has been. The desires of rich fucks to make more money is not separable from the actions of the US government: it always informs it. They start wars and genocides for profit. There is no other heuristic guiding the actions of the US empire because there is no faction other than the bourgeoisie that is allowed to control it.

      You might as well say “Sure, the shooter is pulling the trigger, but it would be silly to think that reflects on the intentions of the gun.”

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        So anything any billionaire says is the official policy of the US? What about all the shit they say that doesn’t happen? I get your point but it’s over generalizing

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            I mean this is completely irrational. Obviously US policy is disproportionately impacted by oligarchs but is what Palantir wants the same as what all billionaires want? What if they want different things? You can’t just pick the dumbest or most egregiously ghoulish thing a rich person said today and say “there! That’s the us policy!”

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              It’s pretty clear that large portions of the ruling class do in fact want these wars. If that wasn’t the case then the oligarch owned media wouldn’t be constantly drumming up support for these wars.

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                It’s pretty clear that large portions of the ruling class do in fact want cheap drugs. That’s why you see the oligarch owned media constantly drumming up support for lower drug costs by reporting on how expensive they are, and Mark Cuban has a website he says is cheaper.

                Is that what all billionaires want? Is it accurate? It’s the same standard. It’s not that you’re wrong about what a lot of rich US ghouls want. It’s that your argument is lazy and dishonest. You can be right AND not tout Palantir as a source of anything other than bullshit!

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                  The oligarch owned media never actually provides any tangible solutions for lowering drug costs last I checked. It reports on the drug prices being high in the context of capitalist realism. For example, you’ll never see US media suggest that drug production should be nationalized.

                  Palantir gives us a windows into what people running it are advocating. Reading and understanding what they say doesn’t mean endorsement, it means being aware of what these people are about. This whole idea liberals have that all problems can be solved by simply sticking your head in the sand is really not working out well last I checked.

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                    You’re moving the goalposts. Before it’s fully sufficient for a billionaire to say it, then it has to be billionaires and the media, and now they have to also be proposing specific types of solutions for it to count. I’m just curious exactly what counts as US national policy and what doesn’t. And last I checked “circlejerking about what Palantir says” isn’t working out great either.