• dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I’m actually kind of amazed that the failure mode for “toaster used sideways” is that it just catches fire. That’s one hell of a design flaw.

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      3 months ago

      Is it a design flaw if someone uses the toaster in a way it’s clearly not intended for, and food touches the hot elements and catches fire?

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        3 months ago

        Id say the design flaw is allowing it to function in that position at all. Put a gravity switch in there like space heaters have, so that it it tilts more than a few degrees it shuts off

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        3 months ago

        Tired of burning your house down when you want to use your toaster toske something not toast? Introducing the toaster oven. For when you want to toast something besides bread.

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        3 months ago

        Maxim number 50, if it only works in exactly the way the manufacturer intended, it is defective.

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        3 months ago

        This is an incredibly American attitude. The appliance clearly has a commonly occurring misuse that puts consumers at risk of burning their neighborhood down.

        It would be a trivial addition to put a physical deadman’a switch on the bottom, exactly like what space heaters use.

        The role of government and regulation is to serve and protect the people. I cannot believe you are unironically advocating that corporations should just put out whatever dangerous products they want with no repercussions just because there is one specific way to use it “correctly”.

        Nevermind the million things that could happen. Cat knocks it over. Disabled or elderly person? Stoned college kid? Child?

        I guess it’s all about pErSoNaL rEsPoNsiBilItY when it benefits you, and all about collectivism when it only benefits you huh?

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          There’s a thousand things that can destroy your house if you use them wrong. Leave the stove on, turn the gas on without lighting it, store loaded firearms in the oven, extension cord trees, breaker bypasses, tinker with any utility, any number of cleaning products, cars in general, water leaks, just leaving the water running, space heaters, portable generators, shorting the terminals on a battery, the list goes on.

          And preventing the use of the toaster sideways won’t fix the problem anyway. People will still cram extra stuff in there, and overcooked toast can catch on fire without much provocation. Even just forgetting to clean the crumb tray can cause a fire. Trying to foolproof a toaster just gets you an incredibly expensive device that rarely works.

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          3 months ago

          Dude what the fuck are you on about. Plenty of products have safety measures in place because we have federal systems to regulate them.

          You can’t just cherry pick one example and then say America bad. What a fucking .ml tier take.

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      3 months ago

      If you didn’t expect a machine that has very hot elements very close to your food to make such food burn if used wrongly, that’s on you.

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            That said, eating asbestos flakes isn’t the most dangerous thing. Plastic partially burning close to your food, but too slowly for you to notice seems way worse… And there are many fire retardants that are safer to handle in a factory but that will give you a really bad time if you eat them.

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              3 months ago

              Fire “removedants?” You mean fire removedants? How about artardents? I suppose one could argue that the automatic censorship of your word is a form of dysfunctional regulation.

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      3 months ago

      There’s all sorts of inappropriate ways to use a toaster where the failure mode is fire. Making toast in bed, under the covers? Catch fire. In a puddle of gasoline? Catch fire. Seriously, WTC toasters?