• zephyreks@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    There’s no reason for country-level sanctions for private corporate espionage. It’s that simple.

    It doesn’t matter if corporate espionage is malicious and it’s frankly hypocritical for America to be calling out other countries’ corporate espionage.

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      1 year ago

      Glad you agree with my points, even if it took you four reiterations to understand them.

      Nobody argued that there should be country level sanctions for private corporate espionage, weird that you keep focusing on arguments nobody has made.

      Yes, of course it matters if the theft of military data by a hostile state is malicious. It is of the essence.

      And no, victim blaming still won’t get you anywhere.

      I appreciate your support

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        1 year ago

        Except that’s exactly what you’re calling for? You gave evidence of (presumably a Chinese telecom) stealing T-Mobile testing equipment as a reason for the sanctions.

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          1 year ago

          That robot was stolen by Huawei, which is heavily subsidized by the CCP.

          But what I have said repeatedly, regardless of your presumptive tangents, is that state level actions make a state responsible, and in the examples I gave, a hostile state has ownership ties to companies stealing energy production data and military data.

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            1 year ago

            But… you don’t consider T-Mobile, Apple, Intel, or Microsoft to be American state-sponsored companies despite their hundreds of billions in subsidies and tax incentives?

            Odd.

            The recent CHIPS act gave Intel what, like $20 billion in subsidies. Guess what? That’s what governments do to stimulate economic growth.

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                1 year ago

                Huawei, which is heavily subsidized by the CCP.

                This statement is literally irrelevant because, guess what, every reasonable country subsidizes their domestic industries. I’ve proven that and you’re unwilling to accept that state-owned enterprises (which exist, by the way) are different from private companies.

                I’ll help you out: Intel is a private company. Amtrak is not. Alibaba is a private company, CRRC is not. Huawei is a private company, CNPC is not.

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                  1 year ago

                  I’m sure everyone is very proud of you for repeating things that I stated previously in this thread and pretending they are your argument.

                  Wait right here, I’ll find someone who can slow clap for you(I feel like you’ll be able to understand the clap better that way).