This is probably not the right community but I haven’t found a better one.

So I watched a video from Seytonic where he mentiond that some malware creates a windows link with the name of the usb on a usb. So I checked my usb because I remembered that I had to click 2 times on my usb to opened it. I found a link that contained cmd.exe and a name of a file next to it. Upload to the virustotal showed Raspberry Roblin worm.

I use Linux but my familly uses windows so I will have to go through all familly computers and remove the worm. Where can I find info how to remove this specific worm - Raspberry Roblin? On google I found a description about how the worm works but not specific files it creates and how to remove it.

The first page that shows up is microsoft.com and it says that windows defender detects the worm, but clearly it doesnt.

Edit: The worm was on one computer and it did not have windows defender installed. Seems like malware removed it and also disabled automatic updates. I installed MalwareBytes and sucessfully removed the worm :)

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    Try to clean your USB stick. Remove the worm and maybe use a cloth to remove the dirt.

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    Here’s probably all the info you could ever need:

    https://redcanary.com/blog/threat-intelligence/raspberry-robin/

    Next, you need to get your systems scanned and cleaned. Malware bytes is likely enough, but I always recommend BitDefender. Their efficacy rates are always fantastic, and they have been leading the industry for several years now. Download the AV on a clean system, put on clean flash drive, and install that way.

    Last, you’re gonna need to reset your passwords. Yes, I know that’s toxic af. But this is the reality and why we always need to be veeeery careful with what we do. This worm communicates with a c2 server which means it can update itself which makes detection hard, and it also means that, at one point it may have been spying on your activity (and it likely was if not continues to)

    This stuff happens, don’t beat yourself up too much. Live and learn

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      Thank you for the link, it will help for sure!

      I (not me but my family) always used just default Windows Defender but I heard good things about Malware bytes and BitDefender, I’ll checked them out.

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        Bitdefender usually goes on sale too - check for coupon codes, don’t pay full price. Plus you get like 5 devices with your license IIRC. Worth a shot

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            if you’re changing all your passwords and switching to Linux anyway consider using a free software local password manager like KeepassXC, I use it along with syncthing and it’s great

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            And you got what you paid for, no?

            I believe there is a free version as well but don’t think just because you’re installing Linux that you’re somehow safer.

            There was just a package that was essentially socially engineered into by a hacker, who then and full access to everyone’s shit.

            All because a GitHub author was pressured into letting them contribute to code. Mac/Apple are no different and starting to be more and more vulnerable as the “security by obscurity” wears off.

            Free tools are fine and well, but that stuff is done for free. Including maintainence and everything else. In times like these, ain’t nobody got time for that anymore. People need to make a living and you will see degradation in the products thusly

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              I didn’t downvote you, but I think you’re assuming waaaay too much about OP’s life circumstances. For al we know, he’s an Argentinian teenage girl with an allowance, or a Vietnamese retired fisherman with no life savings.

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                Could be. However, the point stands, you’re gonna get what you pay for in the end. Not trying to be a dick ofc, but that’s the reality.

                There are some well performing options that are free, but they are limited, and not too common imo

                If anyone does have some good options, feel free to share as I may be unaware of them and think learning about them would be neat

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        Windows defender along with a system hardener (like hard_configurator) can actually be quite insanely strong, especially since windows defender starts working and blocking stuff long before non-system apps, which can be a big boon. This approach is also free (if you have windows) which seems to fit your needs!

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        I’d start with a offline scan.

        If possible wipe the drive from Linux and reinstall Windows. Be mindful of any files as documents and other files can sometimes hide things. Make sure you reset all passwords as well. Start with email passwords and then go up from there.

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    Have you run a full scan using Windows Defender?

    Can you confirm that the worm is actually running?

    AV software may remove the installed worm from the system, but not from the drive.

    Probably a good idea to reformat the USB drive

    PS. if all else fails, nuke and pave (reinstall the computers in your household, including your linux machine)

    You should do this offline, as in, quarantine the situation.

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      Windows defender also has an offline scan mode which may be of use here - hard to say, dunno if they ever dropped a rootkit or any other av-dodging/persistence mechanisms

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        That would be a valid option, but only if there are no windows dependencies and the primary user agrees to the change.

        With all the Win11 spam in Win10, my grandmother decided to try Linux. She is now a 90-year-old Linux user. Her use case is YouTube and email, and I have to support the system (I had to do that for the win10 system as well).

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    I’ll also toss this hat into the ring - sysmon this is essentially a logging tool thats a bit better/nicer than the windows default, and categorizes all logs into very neat buckets that will make watching out for strange shit much much easier.

    Sysmon is part of the sysinternals suite (vetted by the community + microsoft, which is sayin somethin lol) and you can make use this as the config file to use (Uses industry-standard MITRE Att&ck framework) which you can then use to correlate to more threats/malware authors/malware artifacts if you really wanna get your hands dirty/have some fun

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      To level set, Microsoft owns SysInternals, and has since 2006. None of it is “community vetted”, to me that implies FOSS or something.

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        Why would “community vetted” imply FOSS?

        Microsoft has a massive community of users and sysinternals is highly regarded amongst amateur and professional users alike. The term “community vetted” makes perfect sense in this context.

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          Yeah, I use SysInternals stuff every day. Neither myself nor the community has vetted SysInternals tools any more than they have vetted outlook, teams, or word. Unless I’m misunderstanding the meaning of vetted.

          Vetting in a program/application context as I understand it is that the code has been vetted, which can only be done by the community at large if the source code is provided. Just like with a person, vetting is doing an actual background check, where as vouching for someone is just one person telling a second person that a third person is chill or something.

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      Actualy the malware somehow deleted windows defender and disabled automatic updates. I install MalwareBytes and run full scan and removed it.

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    Doesn’t virus total display a list of the AV software it triggered?

    I generally use Malware Bytes on windows but I don’t know if it’s effective against that particular virus.

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      Yes it does but I haven’t checked whichones do end whichones don’t. But half of them do, thats important.

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    And here I was under the impression that using USB storage for anything else than installing operating systems was a thing of the past.

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        Personally, most stuff is in cloud storage. For local stuff I use syncthing.

        But for the average person, I’d expect using iCloud, Google Drive, Onedrive, or Dropbox and then creating a shareable link for the other person.

        I also can’t remember the last time I used a USB drive for anything other than installing an OS.

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        Syncthing and LocalSend.

        Syncthing is used if it is not a one time transfer. LocalSend is mainly for one time transfer. LocalSend needs things to be in the same network. The same WiFi router is enough. Syncthing can send files over the internet also.

        There are browser based alternatives like ShareDrop . These tools are not as reliable as Syncthing and LocalSend, especially when it comes to single large files (more than a few GBs), like ISOs.

        For one time transfer over the internet, another handy tool is Croc . This one also suffers from the large file related issues.

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        If I want to quickly share something from my phone, I use NGINX in Termux with autoindex enabled.

        No need for anything else than browser on client-side.
        Actually, on Play store there’s also a simple GUI app called “Simple HTTP server”, but NGINX feels fancier.

        Just a tip if you want to try this:
        By default, error logs are kept. One source of errors is interface suddenly disappearing (i.e. your phone got disconnected from network). This error will be logged as quickly as it can be.
        What happened (when this occurred)? I found my phone stuck in bootloop. The error log filled internal storage to the last byte causing Android system to crash and unable to reboot, which it tried again, again, again,… Bootloop. I just found my pocket suddenly feeling unreasonably hot.
        In my case, forcing it into recovery, turning it off from there and retrying boot up freed 17MB from somewhere, allowing the phone to boot up.
        Alternative to that would be a hard reset.

        Sounds crazy, but any app could fill the internal storage like that.

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      NVMe in a USB enclosure makes a pretty rad backup target a couple of times a week. The whole job is over and done in <2 minutes.

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        Yes, that’s true but I’m no longer doing that. Everything sync to the NAS using Syncthing that in turn is set with file versioning and weekly snapshots.

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      All the time, right now copying 400 MB onto one as an eBook Calibre library backup.

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        That’s not a good practice as USBs aren’t designed for long term storage. Maybe build some sort of NAS.

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          Lol any kind of flash storage suffers from degradation over time, it doesn’t matter whether you attach a computer to it or not

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    Flamethrower and hammer, to be sure.

    Joke aside, Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool is the tool you need. Download a fresh copy and put it on a USB stick. Whatever Windows computer you need to disinfect, restart in safe mode and copy KVRT. It is standalone and runs offline and can be removed after use. It will scan the whole system. Its malware removal rate is approximately the same as Kaspersky suite, so you know it will do the job.

    Edit: turns out there are brainwormed redditors out here. Ignore their downvotes and you will be fine following advice.

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      Edit: turns out there are brainwormed redditors out here. Ignore their downvotes and you will be fine following advice.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Kaspersky

      Yeah… No. Pick any other reputable company.

      Kaspersky is one of many Russian “oligarchs”

      Edit: I think this paints the picture pretty clear… So worth adding to the discussion. Note the domains that are voting for this post vs not.

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        I think this is poor form, and I won’t be surprised or sad if your one-person instance gets defederated by other instances for this kind of behavior.

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        Any serious security expert is not a Russophobe and regards Kaspersky as the best commercial tool provider and company for malware analysis, based on merit and not on nationality. Kaspersky also does annual global malware reports. You are not one of those serious security people.

        I do not trust Bitdefender, the second best, because it has relatively very high false positive rate. Unlike brainwormed western nationalists, I focus on merit of the tool, as will any serious security enthusiast.

        Edit: also since you are concerned with my edit, yes CIA uses metadata to kill people, and I cannot trust CIA country origin products like Bitdefender. Also lol at abusing one man instance to try and be a snitch on people. This tells a lot about you.

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          Any serious security expert is not a Russophobe

          Categorically wrong. One of the core focuses many security experts care about IS government overreach/interference. Governments are one of the leading pressures for software vulnerabilities/backdoors. Doesn’t matter that it’s Russian, because this isn’t a “Russophobe” stance. However, Russian and Chinese interference is usually on a much larger scale than other countries and typically has a much higher amount of scrutiny than other countries because of this fact. Due to those countries policies it’s hard to trust code that comes out of either country.

          https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/kaspersky-lab-russian-hacking-us-government-national-security-faq/

          “The case against Kaspersky Lab is overwhelming,” Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, a Democrat from New Hampshire, said in a statement. “The strong ties between Kaspersky Lab and the Kremlin are alarming and well-documented.”

          Isn’t it funny that many other Anti-viruses don’t seem to have these issues?

          Case and point from other countries on the government pressure argument.
          https://www.wired.com/story/australia-encryption-law-global-impact/
          https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/a-brief-history-of-the-nsa-attempting-to-insert-backdoors-into-encrypted-data
          https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-supermicro/

          Many countries have these issues documented when interference happen. You know which ones don’t? The ones that you lemmy.ml shills usually defend. That’s not because they’re not doing it by the way.

          Damn… And you’re a mod here? Anyone know of another community that is privacy focused and isn’t on lemmy.ml? A mod that doesn’t understand that closed source software with known ties to government entities is a problem.

          Hell this isn’t even a “Dumb American” stance either (forget that I hold an eastern EU citizenship). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaspersky_bans_and_allegations_of_Russian_government_ties has a whole section of “Concerns raised by other governments”. Virtually all of the EU also has this concern with Kaspersky. Additional countries included… It’s at the very least ODD that a company has such ties to a government. And the sheer PARANOIA that all “serious security experts” hold would immediately bar most of them from using the software due to that fact alone.

          Hell it’s even typical for a security professional to outright block ALL Russian and Chinese internet traffic for their platform. Just because it’s not worth the effort to deal with those countries and all the risks that come with them. But right! This must be “Russophobe” and no “serious security expert” has a problem. You’re full of it dude(tte).

          You are not one of those serious security people.

          News to me… I guess I should turn in my CISO position. Who’s going to tell the R1 college that I taught at for years? All those thousands of students, many of which still reach out to me regularly and have made it quite far in industry?.. Hmm… Oh and it’s not an “appeal to fallacy” or any other logical fallacy when it’s me defending my own status from a bullshit claim.

          Edit: for any non-admin 3rd parties wondering who downvoted me… 100% of those votes at the moment is lemmy.ml or lemmygrad.ml. Take with that what you will. To me that screams “How dare you talk facts about the motherland” vibes.

          Edit2: Oh they also edited their post to seem more normal… Their original post said

          Any serious security expert is not a Russophobe and regards Kaspersky as the best commercial tool provider for malware analysis, based on merit and not on nationality. You are not one of them. I do not trust Bitdefender, Norton, McAfee and other western companies with CIA backdooring, and since CIA does use metadata to kill people (just like Yemen or Palestine), it is a clear cut choice.

          So basically ANY software not Russian, you seem to not trust. Claim it’s on merit… But only point out nationality. Don’t you find that odd that Russia can’t do no harm either? Even though other companies do not have as clear cut ties to their governments?

          Also lol at abusing one man instance to try and be a snitch on people. This tells a lot about you.

          Edit3, after your edit:

          Also lol at abusing one man instance to try and be a snitch on people. This tells a lot about you.

          Activitypub is open by nature, kbin users can see everything that I’ve published. There’s no abuse happening here. Nor is my instance just one person/user. But you do you man.

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            Activitypub is open by nature, kbin users can see everything that I’ve published.

            Yes, we know how Activitypub and kbin/mbin work.

            There’s no abuse happening here.

            Others seem to disagree.

            Nor is my instance just one person/user.

            My sincerest apologies: three user instance 🙄

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              Others seem to disagree.

              That’s fine. You/them can disagree all you want. Just realize that they’re using it too. I just disagree with the default Lemmy stance that users can’t see something that everyone else on the fediverse(including moderators and admin on any federated instance) can. And if they want to defederate me for that. I’m not sure I care. I’ve been defederated from one instance so far… it’s not been a major loss and definitely doesn’t weigh on my conscience at all.

              My sincerest apologies: three user instance 🙄

              I have no interest in disclosing how many users are using my instance. They can post things if they want. That’s up to them. Many are just lurkers though.

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            However, Russian and Chinese interference is usually on a much larger scale than other countries and typically has a much higher amount of scrutiny than other countries because of this fact.

            This nonsense is largely invented by Democrats and people at Washington, to hide fascism of their own country from their own citizens. You parroting the state department propaganda is not a surprise, because many do it. Quoting CNET, Bloomberg and others makes a lot of sense.

            Many countries have these issues documented when interference happen. You know which ones don’t? The ones that you lemmy.ml shills usually defend. That’s not because they’re not doing it by the way. Damn… And you’re a mod here?

            Edit: for any non-admin 3rd parties wondering who downvoted me… 100% of those votes at the moment is lemmy.ml or lemmygrad.ml.

            Your stance looks pretty clear on this issue, since you also managed to quote a Democrat, and even claim:

            Isn’t it funny that many other Anti-viruses don’t seem to have these issues?

            I think you are giving yourself away here, more than an attempt to snitch on Lemmy instance users.

            Yes I edited the post, but you also seem to abuse powers as an admin of your one man instance to see unedited content. Still, does not matter much because NATO/CIA country origin products are hard to trust because of what they openly say they do.

            Also,

            So basically ANY software not Russian, you seem to not trust. Claim it’s on merit… But only point out nationality. Don’t you find that odd that Russia can’t do no harm either? Even though other companies do not have as clear cut ties to their governments?

            It is clear you are blindly parroting US State Dept crap, and doubling down on it. I think you will find peace at places like Reddit and CIA platforms, where there is no criticism allowed against NATO countries, considering you are from eastern Europe, part of Anglosphere. Lemmy might not be a good place for you, considering a lot of leftists exist here who are harder on NATO countries and their services.

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              This nonsense is largely invented by Democrats and people at Washington

              Didn’t know my own analytics is Democrat/Washington run. I guess I should go yell at the people OPNsense (Suricata), WAZUH, and Crowdsec. They must be injecting false notifications about my networks being targetted by shit from Russia and Chinese owned IP space!

              Yes I edited the post, but you also seem to abuse powers as an admin of your one man instance to see unedited content.

              It’s an abuse of power to read the post that’s sent to my email? Well shit! Even for a moderator you seem to not even understand how lemmy works. Let me enlighten you. I got an email with your post in it because you responded to me. What an abuse of Administrative power! Forget that 100% of activitypub network is openly published and thus viewable by anyone… Ooops.

              Lmfao… you reported my post… and likely blocked/“moderated” it on your instance. Don’t really care. To the point though, when 100% of downvotes on a comment is strictly from lemmy.ml or lemmygrad.ml instances. Yes, you’re shills, not a single opposing opinion between you. No discourse. No actual thought process occurring. Just “Russia/China good, rest world bad”. No nuance at all.

              You also failed to address your stance that you published. Why is it that every other platform you originally listed was a problem where Kaspersky isn’t?

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                I have not blocked anything, but left it for admins and other mods to review it, since you have not done something too nasty to call for immediate action within this moment.

                To the point though, when 100% of downvotes on a comment is strictly from lemmy.ml or lemmygrad.ml instances. Yes, you’re shills, not a single opposing opinion between you.

                Your own little vote charter shows one dbzer0 user upvoting as well, so your claim is utterly false. It is not us who are hivemind shills, but you who is parroting US State Dept propaganda.

                As for Chinese and Russian IPs being detected, guess what? A lot of westerners are fucking racist to the core, including you, who act sus the moment you see a .cn or .ru domain on the network filter. And that includes a lot of the netsec people who see this stuff. What if China and Russia started treating .us or .ca or such domains like this and demonise countries? It is you people who project the hate you possess onto others, and you even manage to be proud of it like an absolute idiot with no merit based judgement capabilities.

                It is not a problem that you have enabled email notifications, but you went ahead and posted a vote charter publicly which is only visible to admins (talk about teaching how Lemmy works lol), and are now even talking about reporting comment, something you as a non-mod or non-admin should be unable to see, yet you do as you utilise your one man instance.

                Let me correct it for you, since you seem to project a lot.

                No actual thought process occurring. Just “Russia/China bad, rest world good”. No nuance at all.

                You also failed to address your stance that you published. Why is it that every other platform you originally listed was a problem where Kaspersky isn’t?

                I did not fail. It is too clear to me how you are parroting US propaganda, even quoting a Democrat (Russia hater party) about it. What room is there for reasoning with a crow like you, shitting everywhere happily?

                You are clearly a propagandist and should not be taken one bit seriously on security matters any more than the average YouTuber or Redditor. There are probably tens of thousands of hobbyists alone that are superior to you on places like r/netsec, let alone competing in professional space. Shitting on Kaspersky regarding security matters makes you look like the worst slurs I could summon for an incompetent clown.

                A little consolation for you, since you seem so keen on hinging yourself to the idea - yes Chinese and Russian actors exist in cyber space, just like actors from USA, Canada, Germany, France, Italy and elsewhere. Even North Korea. Cyber warfare is a real, nasty thing. And USA and Israel rule in this space. Facebook even mass deploys malware onto people’s devices via their fbcdn domain. But hey, Huawei, Tiktok, Alibaba, Tencent, QQ, Kaspersky, Yandex, VK, whatever west can, will demonise proudly. Tiktok ban by USA upon one Israel call and one McCain discussion tells a lot of what I need to know on how bad who is.

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                  And that includes a lot of the netsec people who see this stuff.

                  Wait a second! I though NO serious security people are Russophobe? Are you changing your story now?

                  Your own little vote charter shows one dbzer0 user upvoting as well

                  You have the evaluation backwards… Outside people are coming to different consensuses based on opinions and experiences that’s normal… It’s lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml that don’t. I would EXPECT that results were mixed, but for your instance it never is. You seem to have missed the point.

                  What if China and Russia started treating .us or .ca or such domains like this and demonise countries?

                  They literally do. Have you not heard of the great firewall? The vast majority of the internet is unusable to China… and requires a VPN to access anything. Hell, I’d say the lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml instances acting as hiveminds downvoting anything critical of Russia/China is also evidence of this. It’s OKAY to be critical of a government.

                  It is you people who project the hate you possess onto others, and you even manage to be proud of it like an absolute idiot with no merit based judgement capabilities.

                  Not even close. I evaluate everything as I see it. You seem to be making a lot of assumptions here. Kaspersky has strong ties to the Russian government that is sufficient to warrant any “serious security” person to evaluate a different solution.

                  I did not fail. It is too clear to me how you are parroting US propaganda, even quoting a Democrat (Russia hater party) about it.

                  Yet bitdefender is a problem… And you can’t address why Kaspersky would be any different… Talk about parroting.

                  What room is there for reasoning with a crow like you, shitting everywhere happily?

                  Crows (Corvid family) are the smart birds… You mean pigeon.

                  Edit: Actually come to think of it? Why the ravenous defense of Kaspersky at all? It’s just an anti-virus software no? Why does me disagreeing with the use of Kaspersky in this instance warrant “makes you look like the worst slurs I could summon for an incompetent clown.” Don’t you see how unreasonable you look? How you look like a frothing lunatic?

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        Windows defender is almost useless. It heavily relies on cloud for scanning. This is not a problem with special offline tools that some AV companies provide to disinfect systems that may not be able to connect to a network.

        I recommend you check PC Security Channel to see how Defender works against ransomware when internet is turned off, versus on. You can also check performance of other AVs. He is the most reputed resource on benchmarking AVs if you want to see frequent updates, and a rare one that is not biased or rooted in nationalistic or weird biases, since he has his Patreon, Discord and a lack of dependence on lackeys.